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If you think something is wrong with a Wiki page or with this Wiki in general, please add your thoughts to this list. You may just want to read existing proposals and put your vote on them, [[Wiki Maintainers]] will appreciate.
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If you think something is wrong with a Wiki page, please fix it. If the problem is larger with this Wiki in general, please add your thoughts on this page and mail the openmoko [http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/documentation documentation mailing list]. You may just want to read existing proposals and put your vote on them, [[Wiki Maintainers]] will appreciate.  
  
When adding an issue please  
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When adding an issue please
  
 
* Provide a reason
 
* Provide a reason
* Provide your name as vote for the action to be taken
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* Provide your name as vote for the action to be taken (you can automatically enter your username by typing "
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<nowiki>~~~</nowiki> ")
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{{Warning|Comments without name might be deleted without consideration. We may need to ask for more information before implementing a proposal. Thanks for understanding.}}
  
 
Accepted and implemented requests should be deleted. Rejected requests should be moved to the bottom of the page to avoid requesting them again.
 
Accepted and implemented requests should be deleted. Rejected requests should be moved to the bottom of the page to avoid requesting them again.
  
 
==Wiki Pages==
 
==Wiki Pages==
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I think that we should use specific "editor's notes templates" rather that nominate individual pages here. We can make automatic list of pages using a given template by having a Category:X tag inside the template. See for example the [[:Category:ToDo]] . [[User:MinhHaDuong|MinhHaDuong]] 09:44, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
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===Pages capable of development===
 
===Pages capable of development===
* [[OpenMoko:Community Portal]]
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* [[Community Resources]]
* [[Documentation]]
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* [[AGPSD]] (Needs new GPS info)
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* [[AR6K]] (Needs more info)
 
* [[AR6K]] (Needs more info)
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* [[GTA02 partitions]]: seems to be about the GTA01; could someone with a GTA02 please correct the partition sizes and names?
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* [[Advanced_End-user]], [[Basic_End-user]], [[System_Developer]]: These are not up to the standard we set for List Pages on [[Openmoko_Wiki_Editing_Guidelines#List_pages]] [[User:Kempelen|Kempelen]]
  
 
===Redundant Pages===
 
===Redundant Pages===
* There are several pages concerning OpenMoko compatible service providers:
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* There are several pages concerning Openmoko compatible service providers:
 
** [[Carriers]], most up-to-date, confirmed service providers.
 
** [[Carriers]], most up-to-date, confirmed service providers.
 
*** [[Carriers/ATT]]
 
*** [[Carriers/ATT]]
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*** [[Carriers/Fido]]
 
*** [[Carriers/Fido]]
 
*** [[Carriers/Rogers]]
 
*** [[Carriers/Rogers]]
** [[OpenMoko compatible cellphone providers]]
 
 
** [[Neo1973 compatible cellphone providers]]
 
** [[Neo1973 compatible cellphone providers]]
 
* There are several pages concerning the Neo-iPhone comparison:
 
** [[IPhone]]
 
** [[IPhone (GTA01)]]
 
  
 
*I suggest merging the editing help pages:
 
*I suggest merging the editing help pages:
 
**[[Help:Editing]]
 
**[[Help:Editing]]
**[[Editing wiki]]
 
 
**[[Edit Wiki]]
 
**[[Edit Wiki]]
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*pages about GPS:
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**[[Hardware:AGPS]]
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**[[Gpsd]]
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**[[Neo 1973 GPS]]
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**[[Neo FreeRunner GPS]]
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*applications:
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**[[Applications]]
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**[[Om 2007.2 Applications]]
  
 
===Tidy up===
 
===Tidy up===
 
* [[Wishlist:Text Input]] - tidy up/sort, give short feedback to each method
 
* [[Wishlist:Text Input]] - tidy up/sort, give short feedback to each method
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* [[Booting_from_SD]] - tidy up and a rewrite
  
===Categories ===
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=== Pages proposed for deletion ===
  
These Pages are now implemented as categories, thus the unmaintaned pages could be removed. - Kempelen
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This is a place for proposing pages of this wiki for deletion and discussing the proposal. See [[Openmoko Wiki Editing Guidelines#Deleting pages]] for details. Old discussions are archived to [[Wiki Issues/archive]].
* [[Advanced_End-user]]: use [[:Category:User]] instead
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* [[Basic_End-user]]: use [[:Category:User]] instead
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* [[System_Developer]]: use [[:Category:System_Developers]] instead
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* [[Application_Developer]]: use [[:Category:Application_Developer]] instead
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Category rename
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==== [[gsmd]] ====
  
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Outdated (according to Mickey), not updated for over a year --[[User:Marko Knöbl|Marko Knöbl]]
!Rename category
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:I vote "'''yes'''", if it is for sure, not used anymore.How can we check it?-[[User:Leadman|LeadMan]]
!Reasoning
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:I vote "'''no'''". I'm really new to the OpenMoko world and I've found that page really interest in understanding how the gsm work at low level. It has help me to understand a lot how freesmartphone.org works. [[User:Risca|Risca]]
!Yes votes
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:I vote "'''no'''". I'm trying to write my own implementation, and would love to learn from what is already written. [[User:kapiteined|Ed Kapitein]]
!No votes
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|-
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| [[:Category:GTA02_Hardware]] to Neo FreeRuner Hardware  || [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/documentation/2008-July/000066.html mail] || Kempelen, [[User:Marko Knöbl|Marko Knöbl]]
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|}
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===Too general category names===
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==== [[Group sales]] ====
  
These end up in mixed content. They could be removed and content migrated to more specific category names.
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This page is not used anymore: the last time someone entered his name to the list was 1 January 2010. --[[User:Marko Knöbl|Marko Knöbl]] 17:37, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
  
{| border="1"
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=== Pages that especially need work ===
!Category to delete
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!Yes votes
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!No votes
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|-
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|[[:Category:Documentation]] || [[User:Kempelen|Kempelen]], [[User:Marko Knöbl|Marko Knöbl]]
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|-
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| [[:Category:Information]] || [[User:Kempelen|Kempelen]], [[User:Marko Knöbl|Marko Knöbl]]
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|-
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| [[:Category:Openmoko]](1) || [[User:Kempelen|Kempelen]], [[User:Marko Knöbl|Marko Knöbl]]
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| [[:Category:Technical]]  || [[User:Kempelen|Kempelen]], [[User:Marko Knöbl|Marko Knöbl]]
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|}
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(1) We adviced to move Openmoko Inc related info from Openmoko to a new Openmoko Inc category so people won't keep up adding whatever they think.
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* [[Special:Lonelypages]] - Orphaned pages
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* [[Special:DoubleRedirects]] - Pages that redirect to a redirected page
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* [[Special:Popularpages]] - Pages that get viewed a lot
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* [[Special:Ancientpages]] - Old pages
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* [[Special:Newpages]] - New pages
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* [[Special:Wantedpages]] - Wanted pages
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* [[Special:Uncategorizedpages]]
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* [[Special:Shortpages]] - Informationally light pages
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* [[Special:BrokenRedirects]] - Broken redirects
  
=== Pages proposed for deletion ===
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=== Application pages ===
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Maturity level ideas from the documentation list copied by [[User:Kempelen|Kempelen]] 19:05, 1 October 2008 (UTC):
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* It might be nice to have a single word stating the code maturity, perhaps only 3 simple options like prototype, functional, mature
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* Why not stick with pre-alpha, alpha, beta, stable, mature
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Decision postponed. :-) (Feel free to vote here anyway.)
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== Categories ==
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{{Main|:Category talk:Categories}}
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== CSS ==
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We have discussed design on the mailing list, with the conclusion that revising was not a big priority. However, the wiki should be skinnable from user-space by editing : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css . And for development, each user can have his/her own CSS to eat his own dogfood. But I can't seem to make this feature work here.
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Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Monobook
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[[User:MinhHaDuong|MinhHaDuong]] 12:26, 12 September 2008 (UTC).
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* The gutter is too wide
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* Too much footer's padding
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* Could shave 1 or 2 em of vertical space in the header
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* The tabbed navigation layout is non-standard (no framing effect)
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* The search box is below the fold (depends on window height of course)
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* The toolbox (bottom left) has no border
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* Mediawiki's user personal toolbox is prohibited
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* Too many links in the navbar that belongs to the home page but not to every page
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== Portals ==
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We should explore another wiki organization tool: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Contents/Portals portals]. A portal is an introductory page for a given topic. It complements the main article of the subject by introducing the reader to key articles, images, and categories that further describe the subject. Portals also help editors find related projects and things they can do to help. [[User:MinhHaDuong|MinhHaDuong]] 13:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
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== Navigation templates ==
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(FYI Description moved to [[Openmoko_Wiki_Editing_Guidelines#Navigation_templates]], [[User:Kempelen|Kempelen]])
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* The [[Distributions]] page feature a non-templated navigation box
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* We should name these templates distinctly. I suggest using a prefix like "NavBox:".
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* Visual design is by hand (not CSS), and not beautiful
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* Need to test positioning at bottom of article.
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'''References'''
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Navigation_templates
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories,_lists,_and_series_boxes
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[http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/documentation/2008-August/000405.html First discussion in the mailing list] (Note: in the middle of a thread about left navboxes)
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* '''Yes votes''': [[User:Kempelen|Kempelen]] (For real wikipedia like navigation templates at the bottom, not at TOC position, we should move this section to editing guidelines as soon as template implementation improves a bit. Do not delete this please!)
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== DolfjeBot1 proposals ==
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Their is a bot on the openmoko wiki that's controlled by [[User:Dolfje]]. If you have tasks for the bot, please put them [[User:DolfjeBot1|here]].
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A request has been made to tag DolfjeBot1 user account with the 'bot' flag. [[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat| Here is the lists of users]] with permissions at the necessary `bureaucrat' level.
  
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== Wiki engine issues ==
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!Reason
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!Yes votes
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!No votes
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| [[ChangeLog]] || Outdated || Kempelen, [[User:Marko Knöbl|Marko Knöbl]]
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| [[Neo1973_AUX_Button]] || Getting started includes this info for GTA02 || Kempelen, [[User:Marko Knöbl|Marko Knöbl]]
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| [[Neo_1973_Power_Button]] || Getting started includes this info for GTA02 || Kempelen, [[User:Marko Knöbl|Marko Knöbl]]
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| [[PLMN]] || Info moved to [[Glossary]] ||  Kempelen, [[User:Marko Knöbl|Marko Knöbl]]
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| [[MSC]] || Info moved to [[Glossary]] || Kempelen, [[User:Marko Knöbl|Marko Knöbl]]
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| [[MFAQ]], [[MFAQEmail]], [[MFAQCorrection]] || Overcomplicating || Kempelen, [[User:Marko Knöbl|Marko Knöbl]]
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| [[Buying Interest List]] || Page was originally for [[Neo 1973]] - Too many interested people for [[Neo FreeRunner]] || [[User:Marko Knöbl|Marko Knöbl]]
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==Wiki engine issues==
 
 
Can we please install/fix the following features for this wiki:
 
Can we please install/fix the following features for this wiki:
 
* '''Math''' - the Tex math markup does not work currently. Test:
 
* '''Math''' - the Tex math markup does not work currently. Test:
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** <math> P_{ind} </math>
 
** <math> P_{ind} </math>
 
* [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi '''Syntax''' Highlighting - makes code much more readable]
 
* [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi '''Syntax''' Highlighting - makes code much more readable]
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: Report to Openmoko IT on 26,Dec 2008. You can check https://admin-trac.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1695 for detail.
 
* [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GraphViz GraphViz] works with the commonly known dot language - it allows us to draw '''graphs''' using easy markup.
 
* [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GraphViz GraphViz] works with the commonly known dot language - it allows us to draw '''graphs''' using easy markup.
 
* [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AnyWikiDraw AnyWikiDraw] allows us to draw svg '''diagrams''' directly on the wiki page.
 
* [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AnyWikiDraw AnyWikiDraw] allows us to draw svg '''diagrams''' directly on the wiki page.
 
* Make '''visited links''' a different color.
 
* Make '''visited links''' a different color.
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** Sysop should edit [[MediaWiki:Common.css|this page]]
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* Updating MediaWiki to [http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.15/mediawiki-1.15.1.tar.gz v. 15.1]
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* Adding some extensions: [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite/Cite.php Cite], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions Parser function] (!), [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Poem Poem tag] and [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CentralNotice Central Notice] --<small style="background:#f00">'''[[User:Airon90|<span style="color:#000">→ A</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Airon90|<span style="color:#f00;background:#000">ir</span>]][[User talk:Airon90|<span style="color:#000">on</span>]]'''</small> 21:19, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
  
==Wiki languages==
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== Change Sitename ==
Translating ''this'' wiki into other languages does not make much sense:
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* All translated pages need to be kept up-to-date. The people translating will not see every change made.
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* A partly (and often quite badly) done translation is no good.
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* People who use this wiki are sophisticated users, they are very likely to know English. They will not use localised pages as they do not trust them in matters of being up-to-date.
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* Rather create another wiki/information page with more static information for regular mass-market purchaser that do not care about 20 ways to connect their OpenMoko device with their PC but just about one easy one.
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--[[User:Minime|Minime]] 13:43, 3 August 2007 (CEST)
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:I agree that technical pages don't need translating. However, I think that there are some pages for regular users which should be translated. Probably we could create a short list of pages which should be translated into other languages and prevent editors from translating other pages. --[[User:Marko Knöbl|Marko Knöbl]] 16:15, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
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The name of this wiki is currently "Openmoko". I think it should be "Openmoko Wiki" for the following reasons:
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* The other parts of this site (Planet, Projects, Docs) have similar names
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* Media Wiki automatically creates a [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Namespace namespace] for the Sitename (currently "Openmoko"). This means that content of pages beginning with "Openmoko:" cannot be found through the normal search function of this wiki. (At the moment there are four pages of this kind: [[Openmoko:About]], [[Openmoko:Current events]], [[Openmoko:Searching]], [[Openmoko:Privacy policy]])--[[User:Marko Knöbl|Marko Knöbl]] 18:33, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
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'''Yes votes''': [[User:Marko Knöbl|Marko Knöbl]], [[User:MinhHaDuong|Minh]]
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'''No votes''':
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::OpenmokoIT still do some research now. [[User:Coolcat|coolcat]]
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::Then fix the search function (by restoring the standard MediaWiki search function). Anyway they are [[Special:Allpages/Openmoko:]]. Anyway, any links like [[Special:Allpages/Openmoko:]] will break, unless you use [[Special:Allpages/Project:]]. Furthermore, the longer the name of the Project ($wgSitename) becomes, the longer the UTF-8 translations of it will become, and as e.g., for Chinese UTF-8 at 3*3=9 ASCII %XX%XX%XX per character, you'll end up with mile long URLs before long, that is if one day the site becomes fully translated. [[User:Jidanni|Jidanni]] 01:04, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
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== Organize translations ==
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I suggest moving the translations to sub-wikis, like the way wikipedia does it. Currently all translations show up in searches and under category-lists. --[[User:Johndoesacc|Johndoesacc]] 12:03, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
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+1. See issues and solutions for a multilingual mediawiki at:
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http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multilingual_MediaWiki
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Also, the correspondence between translation should be maintained with tags:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Interlanguage_links
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The request [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/documentation/2008-September/000557.html has been heard] but maybe not in the right places. What is the best operational frequency to ping the hosting engineers for that ? [[User:MinhHaDuong|MinhHaDuong]] 13:02, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
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After discussion on the Documentation ML, sub-wikis are out. We want to try namespaces. [[User:MinhHaDuong|MinhHaDuong]] 09:31, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
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== Downloads ==
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=== Symlinks in download directories ===
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This is not strictly Wiki issue, but discussed on the documentation list as being a serious usability disadvantage. Symlinks and .tar.gz files should be removed from the release directories because they confuse users. Ref: [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/documentation/2008-September/000808.html]
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=== Improve README.html ===
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Example: http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/releases/Om2008.9/README.html
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It should at least link to: [[Om_2008.9_Update#Download_and_Flashing]]
  
 
== Rejected requests ==
 
== Rejected requests ==
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When a requested Wiki Issue is voted for not to be done, it must be moved here, to make sure it won't get continously requested again.
 
When a requested Wiki Issue is voted for not to be done, it must be moved here, to make sure it won't get continously requested again.
  
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* '''Don't translate the wiki - rejected''' proposed by [[User:Minime|Minime]] August 2007, moved to rejected by [[User:Kempelen|Kempelen]] August 2008: the Documentation Team looks to support the idea.
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* '''Use namespaces to separate user-oriented and developper-oriented content'''. Assuming the default namespace is user-oriented that would exclude developper-oriented pages from searches (unless the user ticks the box, but who does ?). And it can't be done purely in the wiki, it needs admin time. Better to use categories and a prefix in the page name (like BlendeWiki). [[:User:MinhHaDuong|MinhHaDuong]]
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* '''Use category pages instead List Pages''' Good list pages are allowed and encouraged, as the documentation team today agreed on the mailing list. [[User:Kempelen|Kempelen]] 21:27, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
  
 
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[[Category:Wiki Editing]]
[[Category:Help]]
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Latest revision as of 10:42, 5 October 2011

If you think something is wrong with a Wiki page, please fix it. If the problem is larger with this Wiki in general, please add your thoughts on this page and mail the openmoko documentation mailing list. You may just want to read existing proposals and put your vote on them, Wiki Maintainers will appreciate.

When adding an issue please

  • Provide a reason
  • Provide your name as vote for the action to be taken (you can automatically enter your username by typing "

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WARNING: Comments without name might be deleted without consideration. We may need to ask for more information before implementing a proposal. Thanks for understanding.


Accepted and implemented requests should be deleted. Rejected requests should be moved to the bottom of the page to avoid requesting them again.

Contents

[edit] Wiki Pages

I think that we should use specific "editor's notes templates" rather that nominate individual pages here. We can make automatic list of pages using a given template by having a Category:X tag inside the template. See for example the Category:ToDo . MinhHaDuong 09:44, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pages capable of development

[edit] Redundant Pages

[edit] Tidy up

[edit] Pages proposed for deletion

This is a place for proposing pages of this wiki for deletion and discussing the proposal. See Openmoko Wiki Editing Guidelines#Deleting pages for details. Old discussions are archived to Wiki Issues/archive.

[edit] gsmd

Outdated (according to Mickey), not updated for over a year --Marko Knöbl

I vote "yes", if it is for sure, not used anymore.How can we check it?-LeadMan
I vote "no". I'm really new to the OpenMoko world and I've found that page really interest in understanding how the gsm work at low level. It has help me to understand a lot how freesmartphone.org works. Risca
I vote "no". I'm trying to write my own implementation, and would love to learn from what is already written. Ed Kapitein

[edit] Group sales

This page is not used anymore: the last time someone entered his name to the list was 1 January 2010. --Marko Knöbl 17:37, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Pages that especially need work

[edit] Application pages

Maturity level ideas from the documentation list copied by Kempelen 19:05, 1 October 2008 (UTC):

  • It might be nice to have a single word stating the code maturity, perhaps only 3 simple options like prototype, functional, mature
  • Why not stick with pre-alpha, alpha, beta, stable, mature

Decision postponed. :-) (Feel free to vote here anyway.)

[edit] Categories

Main article: Category talk:Categories


[edit] CSS

We have discussed design on the mailing list, with the conclusion that revising was not a big priority. However, the wiki should be skinnable from user-space by editing : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css . And for development, each user can have his/her own CSS to eat his own dogfood. But I can't seem to make this feature work here. Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Monobook MinhHaDuong 12:26, 12 September 2008 (UTC).

  • The gutter is too wide
  • Too much footer's padding
  • Could shave 1 or 2 em of vertical space in the header
  • The tabbed navigation layout is non-standard (no framing effect)
  • The search box is below the fold (depends on window height of course)
  • The toolbox (bottom left) has no border
  • Mediawiki's user personal toolbox is prohibited
  • Too many links in the navbar that belongs to the home page but not to every page

[edit] Portals

We should explore another wiki organization tool: portals. A portal is an introductory page for a given topic. It complements the main article of the subject by introducing the reader to key articles, images, and categories that further describe the subject. Portals also help editors find related projects and things they can do to help. MinhHaDuong 13:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Navigation templates

(FYI Description moved to Openmoko_Wiki_Editing_Guidelines#Navigation_templates, Kempelen)

  • The Distributions page feature a non-templated navigation box
  • We should name these templates distinctly. I suggest using a prefix like "NavBox:".
  • Visual design is by hand (not CSS), and not beautiful
  • Need to test positioning at bottom of article.

References

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Navigation_templates http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories,_lists,_and_series_boxes

First discussion in the mailing list (Note: in the middle of a thread about left navboxes)

  • Yes votes: Kempelen (For real wikipedia like navigation templates at the bottom, not at TOC position, we should move this section to editing guidelines as soon as template implementation improves a bit. Do not delete this please!)

[edit] DolfjeBot1 proposals

Their is a bot on the openmoko wiki that's controlled by User:Dolfje. If you have tasks for the bot, please put them here. A request has been made to tag DolfjeBot1 user account with the 'bot' flag. Here is the lists of users with permissions at the necessary `bureaucrat' level.

[edit] Wiki engine issues

Can we please install/fix the following features for this wiki:

Report to Openmoko IT on 26,Dec 2008. You can check https://admin-trac.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1695 for detail.

[edit] Change Sitename

The name of this wiki is currently "Openmoko". I think it should be "Openmoko Wiki" for the following reasons:

Yes votes: Marko Knöbl, Minh

No votes:

OpenmokoIT still do some research now. coolcat
Then fix the search function (by restoring the standard MediaWiki search function). Anyway they are Special:Allpages/Openmoko:. Anyway, any links like Special:Allpages/Openmoko: will break, unless you use Special:Allpages/Project:. Furthermore, the longer the name of the Project ($wgSitename) becomes, the longer the UTF-8 translations of it will become, and as e.g., for Chinese UTF-8 at 3*3=9 ASCII %XX%XX%XX per character, you'll end up with mile long URLs before long, that is if one day the site becomes fully translated. Jidanni 01:04, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Organize translations

I suggest moving the translations to sub-wikis, like the way wikipedia does it. Currently all translations show up in searches and under category-lists. --Johndoesacc 12:03, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

+1. See issues and solutions for a multilingual mediawiki at: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multilingual_MediaWiki Also, the correspondence between translation should be maintained with tags: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Interlanguage_links The request has been heard but maybe not in the right places. What is the best operational frequency to ping the hosting engineers for that ? MinhHaDuong 13:02, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

After discussion on the Documentation ML, sub-wikis are out. We want to try namespaces. MinhHaDuong 09:31, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Downloads

[edit] Symlinks in download directories

This is not strictly Wiki issue, but discussed on the documentation list as being a serious usability disadvantage. Symlinks and .tar.gz files should be removed from the release directories because they confuse users. Ref: [1]

[edit] Improve README.html

Example: http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/releases/Om2008.9/README.html

It should at least link to: Om_2008.9_Update#Download_and_Flashing

[edit] Rejected requests

When a requested Wiki Issue is voted for not to be done, it must be moved here, to make sure it won't get continously requested again.

  • Don't translate the wiki - rejected proposed by Minime August 2007, moved to rejected by Kempelen August 2008: the Documentation Team looks to support the idea.
  • Use namespaces to separate user-oriented and developper-oriented content. Assuming the default namespace is user-oriented that would exclude developper-oriented pages from searches (unless the user ticks the box, but who does ?). And it can't be done purely in the wiki, it needs admin time. Better to use categories and a prefix in the page name (like BlendeWiki). MinhHaDuong
  • Use category pages instead List Pages Good list pages are allowed and encouraged, as the documentation team today agreed on the mailing list. Kempelen 21:27, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
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Wiki Pages

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Redundant Pages

Tidy up

Categories

These Pages are now implemented as categories, thus the unmaintaned pages could be removed. - Kempelen

Category rename

Rename category Reasoning Yes votes No votes
Category:GTA02_Hardware to Neo FreeRuner Hardware mail Kempelen, Marko Knöbl

Too general category names

These end up in mixed content. They could be removed and content migrated to more specific category names.

Category to delete Yes votes No votes
Category:Documentation Kempelen, Marko Knöbl
Category:Information Kempelen, Marko Knöbl
Category:Openmoko(1) Kempelen, Marko Knöbl
Category:Technical Kempelen, Marko Knöbl

(1) We adviced to move Openmoko Inc related info from Openmoko to a new Openmoko Inc category so people won't keep up adding whatever they think.

Pages proposed for deletion

Page Reason Yes votes No votes
ChangeLog Outdated Kempelen, Marko Knöbl
Neo1973_AUX_Button Getting started includes this info for GTA02 Kempelen, Marko Knöbl
Neo_1973_Power_Button Getting started includes this info for GTA02 Kempelen, Marko Knöbl
PLMN Info moved to Glossary Kempelen, Marko Knöbl
MSC Info moved to Glossary Kempelen, Marko Knöbl
MFAQ, MFAQEmail, MFAQCorrection Overcomplicating Kempelen, Marko Knöbl
Buying Interest List Page was originally for Neo 1973 - Too many interested people for Neo FreeRunner Marko Knöbl

Wiki engine issues

Can we please install/fix the following features for this wiki:

  • Math - the Tex math markup does not work currently. Test:
    • <math> z =\left (1-\left(\frac{P_{ind}}{101.325}\right)^{0.190263} \right ) \times \frac{87.828}{0.00198122} </math>
    • <math> P_{ind} </math>
  • Syntax Highlighting - makes code much more readable
  • GraphViz works with the commonly known dot language - it allows us to draw graphs using easy markup.
  • AnyWikiDraw allows us to draw svg diagrams directly on the wiki page.
  • Make visited links a different color.

Wiki languages

Translating this wiki into other languages does not make much sense:

  • All translated pages need to be kept up-to-date. The people translating will not see every change made.
  • A partly (and often quite badly) done translation is no good.
  • People who use this wiki are sophisticated users, they are very likely to know English. They will not use localised pages as they do not trust them in matters of being up-to-date.
  • Rather create another wiki/information page with more static information for regular mass-market purchaser that do not care about 20 ways to connect their OpenMoko device with their PC but just about one easy one.

--Minime 13:43, 3 August 2007 (CEST)

I agree that technical pages don't need translating. However, I think that there are some pages for regular users which should be translated. Probably we could create a short list of pages which should be translated into other languages and prevent editors from translating other pages. --Marko Knöbl 16:15, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Rejected requests

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