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'''Om 2008.8''' Was the name of the first version of [[Om 2008]]. It was released on August 08, 2008. Om 2008.8 was superseded by [[Om 2008.9]]/[[Om 2008.12]] which were released later that year.
 
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== Summary ==
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'''Om 2008.8''' is the successor to [[Om 2007.2]] and had '''ASU''' as a codename. It was [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/025619.html released] on '''August 08, 2008''' (+ update "stable" releases starting from '''August 26, 2008'''). Om 2008.8 uses EFL for the launcher, custom UI applications and [[QtopiaOnX11|Qtopia on X11]] for telephony. The distribution  is the first step from GTK+ on x11 to using multiple toolkits in combination.
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== What's New ? ==
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Compared to 2007.2 that has a longer development history, Om 2008.8 is definitely a .0 major release. So think KDE 4.0 vs. 3.5, not Linux 2.6.23 vs. 2.6.22. There are daily updates, some good some bad. If you want the stability level required to use the FreeRunner as your main phone, it is suggested for now to keep 2007.2 in the phone's flash memory and test 2008.8 on a removable SD card.
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The main user-visible changes:
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* The user interface has been fully revised with a new window manager [[illume]]. It is visually much richer, and can be customized further by using your own [[Edje]] files.
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* '''[[Om2008.8_Installer|A graphical installer]]''' allows to add easily new applications, [[Themes]] and functionality.
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* A new [[Om2008.8_Locations|Locations]] application is provided, to save your favorite spots and share them with friends via sms.
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* Power management has been improved: The Aux button now locks the screen, the Power button suspends and the red LED behind the Aux button lights up when charging.
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* The [[Om2008.8_Keyboard| keyboard]] is now the Qtopia one (whether this is an improvement has been [[Keyboard_Debate|hotly debated]]).
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For developers, the main changes are:
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* Multiple toolkits: '''Om 2008.8''' supports [http://www.enlightenment.org/ EFL], [http://trolltech.com/products/qtopia Qtopia] and [http://www.gtk.org GTK+] applications.
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* A [[Community Repository]] has been set up, it is integrated in the ([[Om2008.8_Installer|Installer]]).
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* '''Source Codes''' are publicly available, allowing for customization all the way down to low level systems.
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For more details, see the [[Om 2008.8 Guide]] and the [[Om 2008.8 Feature Plan]].
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== Installation ==
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To install the Om2008.8 stable distribution on the Neo FreeRunner, download the Root Filesystem and the Kernel image files from [[Download]] page and install according to [[Flashing the Neo FreeRunner]].
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== Known Issues ==
 
== Known Issues ==
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Alex reportedly solved the problem going into Illume Settings, then Power, and setting to OFF the 2 parameters. He still gets the screensaver, but can reactivate easily just by touching.
 
Alex reportedly solved the problem going into Illume Settings, then Power, and setting to OFF the 2 parameters. He still gets the screensaver, but can reactivate easily just by touching.
  
If resume breaks audio (the ringing of the phone or for calling someone) a very probable reason is that the pulseaudio sound server is installed. This happens e.G. when openmoko-mediaplayer2 is installed. There seems to be [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-August/004877.html activity to fix this application] already, though. ([[User:John|John]]: Already fixed in testing repo, waiting for the next release. See #1831, #1614, #1192)
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If resume breaks audio (the ringing of the phone or for calling someone) a very probable reason is that the pulseaudio sound server is installed. This happens e.G. when openmoko-mediaplayer2 is installed. There seems to be [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-August/004877.html activity to fix this application] already, though.
  
 
'''GSM'''
 
'''GSM'''
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'''QPE high cpu usage'''
 
'''QPE high cpu usage'''
* qpe does scan whole filesystem ( including SD card ) for documents , mp3 files , etc. If you don't want it you can edit <tt>/opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Storage.conf</tt> and disable Sd Card scanning ( overwrite 1 by 0 ).
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* qpe does scan whole filesystem ( including SD card ) for documents , mp3 files , etc. If you don't want it you can edit <tt>/opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Storage.conf</tt> and disable Sd Card scanning ( overwrite 1 by 0 ), i.e. the section in the file should read like this after aplying the change to Om2008.9:
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<br><code>[MountPoint0]</code>
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<br><code>Name[] = SD Card</code>
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<br><code>Path=/dev/mmcblk0p1</code>
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<br><code>Removable = 1</code>
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<br><code>Applications = 0</code>
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<br><code>Documents = 0</code>
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<br><code>ContentDatabase = 0</code>
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'''Networking'''
 
'''Networking'''
 
* No Updates/Installation are possible or pings to domains because DNS is not working. This problem occurs because the /etc/resolv.conf is empty by default.
 
* No Updates/Installation are possible or pings to domains because DNS is not working. This problem occurs because the /etc/resolv.conf is empty by default.
 
Add these lines in /etc/network/interfaces:
 
Add these lines in /etc/network/interfaces:
 
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<pre>
 
up echo nameserver 208.67.222.222 > /etc/resolv.conf
 
up echo nameserver 208.67.222.222 > /etc/resolv.conf
 
up echo nameserver 208.67.220.220 >> /etc/resolv.conf
 
up echo nameserver 208.67.220.220 >> /etc/resolv.conf
This is to be inserted below gateway address and above the bluetooth networking. After this it will be set on every reboot.
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This is to be inserted below gateway address and above the bluetooth networking. After this it will be set on every reboot. Note that sending all DNS traffic to these servers lets their administrators follow each and every web site you visit. You might want to consider using the nameservers of your real ISP instead since they can already do such tracking.
  
 
For resolving DNS without restarting, run the following commands:
 
For resolving DNS without restarting, run the following commands:
 
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<pre>
 
echo nameserver 208.67.222.222 > /etc/resolv.conf
 
echo nameserver 208.67.222.222 > /etc/resolv.conf
 
echo nameserver 208.67.220.220 >> /etc/resolv.conf
 
echo nameserver 208.67.220.220 >> /etc/resolv.conf
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</pre>
 
This should solve most of your moko side networking issues. If you need any other help please refer to [[USB Networking]]
 
This should solve most of your moko side networking issues. If you need any other help please refer to [[USB Networking]]
  
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<code>mkdir /lib/resolvconf/ ; cd /lib/resolvconf/</code><br>
 
<code>mkdir /lib/resolvconf/ ; cd /lib/resolvconf/</code><br>
 
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<nowiki>wget http://87.227.108.179/list-records</nowiki> </code><br>
 
<nowiki>wget http://87.227.108.179/list-records</nowiki> </code><br>
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* The keyboard may not be adapted for all uses. See [[Keyboard Debate]] for a full discussion and options.
 
* The keyboard may not be adapted for all uses. See [[Keyboard Debate]] for a full discussion and options.
  
== Updates for Om 2008.8 ==
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== Subsequent upgrades ==
  
 
Posterior to the Om2008.8 release made on 2008/08/08, development has been [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/026491.html split in two branches] aiming respectively at the next minor and major releases.
 
Posterior to the Om2008.8 release made on 2008/08/08, development has been [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/026491.html split in two branches] aiming respectively at the next minor and major releases.
  
Support for 2008.8 occurs on the ''org.openmoko.asu.stable'' branch, with the short term goal to improve stability and useability, keeping the same features set. Changes to that branch are described in [http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=log;h=org.openmoko.asu.stable the Om 2008.8 stable changelog], and official updates  are available (as of 2008/08/26) in two forms (see [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/027997.html this message] for the announcement) :
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Direct follow-up for 2008.8 occured on the [http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=shortlog;h=org.openmoko.asu.stable org.openmoko.asu.stable] branch, with the short term goal to improve stability and useability, keeping the same features set. Official updates  are available in the [http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/ 2008.8 packages repository] feeds. Since this repository is already configured in 2008.8, using 'opkg update; opkg upgrade' is sufficient to stay up to date. Two subsequent "point upgrade" named [[Om 2008.9 Update]] and [[Om 2008.12 Update]] have been released.
* in the http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/ opkg feeds. Since these are already configured in 2008.8, using 'opkg update; opkg upgrade' is sufficient to get these.
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* as flash-able images in http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/
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On September 19th,  a point upgrade named [[Om 2008.9 Update]] was released.
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The long-term development branch is named ''org.openmoko.dev''. This branch has refocused on the base system functionalities (applications will not be installed by default), and started by catching up with upstream. Critical bugfixes from that branch should percolate to the ''.asu.stable'' branch after an unspecified delay. Using binaries updates from that branch (or any other non-2008.8 repository) on a 2008.8 stable base is likely to send you in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependency_hell Dependency Hell], you have been warned.
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The long-term development branch is named [http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=shortlog;h=org.openmoko.dev org.openmoko.dev], this is where most activity happens. This branch has refocused on the base system functionalities, no applications are installed by default. Critical bugfixes from that branch are eventually ported to the ''.asu.stable'' branch. Using binaries updates from that branch (or any other non-2008.8 repository) on a 2008.x stable base is likely to send you in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependency_hell Dependency Hell], you have been warned.
  
 
== Dedication ==
 
== Dedication ==

Latest revision as of 13:28, 4 June 2009


Om 2008.8 Was the name of the first version of Om 2008. It was released on August 08, 2008. Om 2008.8 was superseded by Om 2008.9/Om 2008.12 which were released later that year.

[edit] Known Issues

This is only a subset, and some of the bits reported below may have been fixed by stable updates (see Alasal's test reports as well as the "Updates" section below). See all tickets with 2008.8 in the bug tracker.

Suspend

Builds from the last days of August tend to suspend after 30s no matter what you set in settings. Switching the screensaver off with `xset s off' disables suspend completely. Note that this command must be typed into the terminal application on the phone itself; if you try to run it from an ssh session it fails with the error `xset: unable to open display ""'. This is because ssh sessions change the display settings expecting you might want X11 forwarding. In fact if you are using X11 forwarding with ssh -Y, the command won't fail over ssh, but it still won't do what you expect, as xset will assume you're talking about the forwarded X11 session, and thus doesn't affect the X11 session on the phone. Therefore if you use a ssh session you need to enter `xset -display :0 s off'.

Alex reportedly solved the problem going into Illume Settings, then Power, and setting to OFF the 2 parameters. He still gets the screensaver, but can reactivate easily just by touching.

If resume breaks audio (the ringing of the phone or for calling someone) a very probable reason is that the pulseaudio sound server is installed. This happens e.G. when openmoko-mediaplayer2 is installed. There seems to be activity to fix this application already, though.

GSM

WiFi

Audio quality

System Software

QPE high cpu usage

  • qpe does scan whole filesystem ( including SD card ) for documents , mp3 files , etc. If you don't want it you can edit /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Storage.conf and disable Sd Card scanning ( overwrite 1 by 0 ), i.e. the section in the file should read like this after aplying the change to Om2008.9:


[MountPoint0]
Name[] = SD Card
Path=/dev/mmcblk0p1
Removable = 1
Applications = 0
Documents = 0
ContentDatabase = 0


Networking

  • No Updates/Installation are possible or pings to domains because DNS is not working. This problem occurs because the /etc/resolv.conf is empty by default.

Add these lines in /etc/network/interfaces:

up echo nameserver 208.67.222.222 > /etc/resolv.conf
up echo nameserver 208.67.220.220 >> /etc/resolv.conf

This is to be inserted below gateway address and above the bluetooth networking. After this it will be set on every reboot. Note that sending all DNS traffic to these servers lets their administrators follow each and every web site you visit. You might want to consider using the nameservers of your real ISP instead since they can already do such tracking.

For resolving DNS without restarting, run the following commands:

echo nameserver 208.67.222.222 > /etc/resolv.conf
echo nameserver 208.67.220.220 >> /etc/resolv.conf

This should solve most of your moko side networking issues. If you need any other help please refer to USB Networking

NOTE: resolvconf is installed so should probably be used

Problem: parts of resolvconf are missing: without the scripts under /etc/network/if-{up,down}.d, and /etc/resolvconf/run/enable-updates and /lib/resolvconf/list-records it does nothing, and even then, /etc/resolvconf/run should probably be a symlink to /var/run, or /etc/resolv.conf needs to be pointed at /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf -- once all that's done, it seems to work as long as you add something like this to /etc/network/interfaces at the end of the usb0 stanza:

dns-nameservers 192.168.0.200 dns-search example.com

and add usb* above eth* in /etc/resolvconf/interface-order



NOTE: Solution: Steps to add missing resolvconf script:

touch /etc/resolvconf/run/enable-updates
cd /etc ; rm resolv.conf ; ln -s /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf .
mkdir /lib/resolvconf/ ; cd /lib/resolvconf/

wget http://87.227.108.179/list-records
chmod +x list-records
Edit /etc/network/interfaces and remove the lines:
network 192.168.0.0
gateway 192.168.0.200
If we need to use the usb network more then just locally from the computer in the other end of the USB-cable, login with ssh and add a default route like this:
route add default gateway 192.168.0.200


  • Usb-networking will not work until rebooted after initial boot.

Usability

  • The Pin-Dialog by default just shows letters. You have to slide your finger up/down over the keyboard to make the numbers/uppercase/special characters appear.
  • The installer app doesn't release administrative rights which results in not being able to use opkg. Solution: run "killall packagekitd" (on the freerunner or when ssh'ed in).
  • The installer app doesn't release administrative rights which results in not being able to use opkg. Alternate Solution: On the FreeRunner, use the drop-down menu to close all open applications.
  • The keyboard may not be adapted for all uses. See Keyboard Debate for a full discussion and options.

[edit] Subsequent upgrades

Posterior to the Om2008.8 release made on 2008/08/08, development has been split in two branches aiming respectively at the next minor and major releases.

Direct follow-up for 2008.8 occured on the org.openmoko.asu.stable branch, with the short term goal to improve stability and useability, keeping the same features set. Official updates are available in the 2008.8 packages repository feeds. Since this repository is already configured in 2008.8, using 'opkg update; opkg upgrade' is sufficient to stay up to date. Two subsequent "point upgrade" named Om 2008.9 Update and Om 2008.12 Update have been released.

The long-term development branch is named org.openmoko.dev, this is where most activity happens. This branch has refocused on the base system functionalities, no applications are installed by default. Critical bugfixes from that branch are eventually ported to the .asu.stable branch. Using binaries updates from that branch (or any other non-2008.8 repository) on a 2008.x stable base is likely to send you in Dependency Hell, you have been warned.

[edit] Dedication

From: Openmoko
To: openmoko-community mailing list

Om 2008.8 was designed to be empty, for the very purpose of showcasing your ideas.

Think of our products as galleries. We're building the environment.
Each one different from the next. You'll get all the free art supplies
you could imagine because we want you to add your own meaning.
You choose: consume, create, or both.

Either way you create your own meaning. It's about you.
Personal tools
Key pages on:
Om 2008


Om 2008.8 is one of the many distributions that currently work on the Openmoko phones. You can compare a distribution with an Operating System on normal computers. It gives the phone all the software needed for operating. For more information about the different flavors, see distributions.

Summary

Om 2008.8 is the successor to Om 2007.2 and had ASU as a codename. It was released on August 08, 2008 (+ update "stable" releases starting from August 26, 2008). Om 2008.8 uses EFL for the launcher, custom UI applications and Qtopia on X11 for telephony. The distribution is the first step from GTK+ on x11 to using multiple toolkits in combination.

What's New ?

Compared to 2007.2 that has a longer development history, Om 2008.8 is definitely a .0 major release. So think KDE 4.0 vs. 3.5, not Linux 2.6.23 vs. 2.6.22. There are daily updates, some good some bad. If you want the stability level required to use the FreeRunner as your main phone, it is suggested for now to keep 2007.2 in the phone's flash memory and test 2008.8 on a removable SD card.

The main user-visible changes:

  • The user interface has been fully revised with a new window manager illume. It is visually much richer, and can be customized further by using your own Edje files.
  • A graphical installer allows to add easily new applications, Themes and functionality.
  • A new Locations application is provided, to save your favorite spots and share them with friends via sms.
  • Power management has been improved: The Aux button now locks the screen, the Power button suspends and the red LED behind the Aux button lights up when charging.
  • The keyboard is now the Qtopia one (whether this is an improvement has been hotly debated).

For developers, the main changes are:

  • Multiple toolkits: Om 2008.8 supports EFL, Qtopia and GTK+ applications.
  • A Community Repository has been set up, it is integrated in the (Installer).
  • Source Codes are publicly available, allowing for customization all the way down to low level systems.

For more details, see the Om 2008.8 Guide and the Om 2008.8 Feature Plan.


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Installation

To install the Om2008.8 stable distribution on the Neo FreeRunner, download the Root Filesystem and the Kernel image files from Download page and install according to Flashing the Neo FreeRunner.

Known Issues

This is only a subset, and some of the bits reported below may have been fixed by stable updates (see Alasal's test reports as well as the "Updates" section below). See all tickets with 2008.8 in the bug tracker.

Suspend

Builds from the last days of August tend to suspend after 30s no matter what you set in settings. Switching the screensaver off with `xset s off' disables suspend completely. Note that this command must be typed into the terminal application on the phone itself; if you try to run it from an ssh session it fails with the error `xset: unable to open display ""'. This is because ssh sessions change the display settings expecting you might want X11 forwarding. In fact if you are using X11 forwarding with ssh -Y, the command won't fail over ssh, but it still won't do what you expect, as xset will assume you're talking about the forwarded X11 session, and thus doesn't affect the X11 session on the phone. Therefore if you use a ssh session you need to enter `xset -display :0 s off'.

Alex reportedly solved the problem going into Illume Settings, then Power, and setting to OFF the 2 parameters. He still gets the screensaver, but can reactivate easily just by touching.

If resume breaks audio (the ringing of the phone or for calling someone) a very probable reason is that the pulseaudio sound server is installed. This happens e.G. when openmoko-mediaplayer2 is installed. There seems to be activity to fix this application already, though. (John: Already fixed in testing repo, waiting for the next release. See #1831, #1614, #1192)

GSM

WiFi

Audio quality

System Software

QPE high cpu usage

  • qpe does scan whole filesystem ( including SD card ) for documents , mp3 files , etc. If you don't want it you can edit /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Storage.conf and disable Sd Card scanning ( overwrite 1 by 0 ).

Networking

  • No Updates/Installation are possible or pings to domains because DNS is not working. This problem occurs because the /etc/resolv.conf is empty by default.

Add these lines in /etc/network/interfaces:

up echo nameserver 208.67.222.222 > /etc/resolv.conf up echo nameserver 208.67.220.220 >> /etc/resolv.conf This is to be inserted below gateway address and above the bluetooth networking. After this it will be set on every reboot.

For resolving DNS without restarting, run the following commands:

echo nameserver 208.67.222.222 > /etc/resolv.conf echo nameserver 208.67.220.220 >> /etc/resolv.conf This should solve most of your moko side networking issues. If you need any other help please refer to USB Networking

NOTE: resolvconf is installed so should probably be used

Problem: parts of resolvconf are missing: without the scripts under /etc/network/if-{up,down}.d, and /etc/resolvconf/run/enable-updates and /lib/resolvconf/list-records it does nothing, and even then, /etc/resolvconf/run should probably be a symlink to /var/run, or /etc/resolv.conf needs to be pointed at /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf -- once all that's done, it seems to work as long as you add something like this to /etc/network/interfaces at the end of the usb0 stanza:

dns-nameservers 192.168.0.200 dns-search example.com

and add usb* above eth* in /etc/resolvconf/interface-order



NOTE: Solution: Steps to add missing resolvconf script:

touch /etc/resolvconf/run/enable-updates
cd /etc ; rm resolv.conf ; ln -s /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf .
mkdir /lib/resolvconf/ ; cd /lib/resolvconf/


wget http://87.227.108.179/list-records

chmod +x list-records
Edit /etc/network/interfaces and remove the lines:
network 192.168.0.0
gateway 192.168.0.200
If we need to use the usb network more then just locally from the computer in the other end of the USB-cable, login with ssh and add a default route like this:
route add default gateway 192.168.0.200


  • Usb-networking will not work until rebooted after initial boot.

Usability

  • The Pin-Dialog by default just shows letters. You have to slide your finger up/down over the keyboard to make the numbers/uppercase/special characters appear.
  • The installer app doesn't release administrative rights which results in not being able to use opkg. Solution: run "killall packagekitd" (on the freerunner or when ssh'ed in).
  • The installer app doesn't release administrative rights which results in not being able to use opkg. Alternate Solution: On the FreeRunner, use the drop-down menu to close all open applications.
  • The keyboard may not be adapted for all uses. See Keyboard Debate for a full discussion and options.

Updates for Om 2008.8

Posterior to the Om2008.8 release made on 2008/08/08, development has been split in two branches aiming respectively at the next minor and major releases.

Support for 2008.8 occurs on the org.openmoko.asu.stable branch, with the short term goal to improve stability and useability, keeping the same features set. Changes to that branch are described in the Om 2008.8 stable changelog, and official updates are available (as of 2008/08/26) in two forms (see this message for the announcement) :

On September 19th, a point upgrade named Om 2008.9 Update was released.

The long-term development branch is named org.openmoko.dev. This branch has refocused on the base system functionalities (applications will not be installed by default), and started by catching up with upstream. Critical bugfixes from that branch should percolate to the .asu.stable branch after an unspecified delay. Using binaries updates from that branch (or any other non-2008.8 repository) on a 2008.8 stable base is likely to send you in Dependency Hell, you have been warned.

Dedication

From: Openmoko
To: openmoko-community mailing list

Om 2008.8 was designed to be empty, for the very purpose of showcasing your ideas.

Think of our products as galleries. We're building the environment.
Each one different from the next. You'll get all the free art supplies
you could imagine because we want you to add your own meaning.
You choose: consume, create, or both.

Either way you create your own meaning. It's about you.