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Okay I think we have sanitized the top-level structure, but lots remains to be done !
 
Okay I think we have sanitized the top-level structure, but lots remains to be done !
 
* Multilinguism
 
* Multilinguism
* Categorizing templates
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* Categorizing [[Templates]] (not started)
* Categorizing the pages themselves
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* Categorizing [[Special:Uncategorizedpages| uncategorized pages]] (mostly done)
* Rewriting the category pages text
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* Categorizing [[Special:Uncategorizedcategories|uncategorized categories]] (almost complete, waiting on multilinguism)
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* Recategorizing poorly categorized pages (ongoing task, waiting on categorization to settle)
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* Rewriting the category pages text (waiting on categorization to settle)
 
* Some more shuffling around subcategories remains to be done
 
* Some more shuffling around subcategories remains to be done
* Clickable tree is ugly/less functional than directory-style list of subcategories (but automatic ?)
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* Clickable tree is ugly/less functional than directory-style list of subcategories (but automatic ? discussing values and goals)
* Clean the Wiki Issue page too
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* Clean the Wiki Issue page of Categorization talk too (mostly done)
 
* Integrate with the Wiki-wide navigation system (left column, main page, navboxes)
 
* Integrate with the Wiki-wide navigation system (left column, main page, navboxes)
 
* Besides "Distributions" the name of top level categories are all questionable
 
* Besides "Distributions" the name of top level categories are all questionable
** Rename "Community" as "We the people" and move "Openmoko Inc." there ?
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** Rename "Community" as "People" and move "Openmoko Inc." there ? (btw there is no 'move' for categories, only create new / move content / delete old)
 
** Is "Maturity level" as self explining as I think it should be ?
 
** Is "Maturity level" as self explining as I think it should be ?
** "Technical" is nondescriptive
 
  
 
So much work, so little time !
 
So much work, so little time !
  
 
[[User:MinhHaDuong|MinhHaDuong]] 07:47, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 
[[User:MinhHaDuong|MinhHaDuong]] 07:47, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
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Updated: [[User:MinhHaDuong|MinhHaDuong]] 06:53, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
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== Moved here from [[Wiki Issues]] ==
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[[User:MinhHaDuong|MinhHaDuong]] 14:36, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
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===General issues with categories===
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* Please read wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorization Categorization] page and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization FAQ]
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* There are way too many [[Special:Categories| categories]].
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* There should be only one category taxonomy for the "Neo type" with subcategories "FreeRunner", "Neo1973", "GTA03"... Otherwise, categories should not include the Neo type.
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* Another big taxonomy can be based on the layers model. "Chips", "Drivers", "Operating system", "Framework", "Applications"
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=== The Ideas category ===
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[[Category:ideas|Ideas]]
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1. Many pages have  Wishlist:  in the title. This syntax is potentially confusing because there is no Wishlist:  namespace. TEH BOT did a mass rename from "Wishlist:(.*)" to "Wishlist/\1" ? Thanks.
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2. A significant minority of pages in the "Category:ideas" are missing the prefix in the title.
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3. There are two templates, { { Wishlist } } and { { Unimplemented } } . We agreed on the ML (10/9/08 IIRC) that it is unnecessary redundancy.
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=== The test category ===
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[[Category:Test|Test]]
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Is it organized and how ? [[User:MinhHaDuong|MinhHaDuong]] 10:11, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
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Can we move these pages under a new subcategory of Test ?
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* http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kuai_Yi_Dian_GM519
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* http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Compulab_EM-X270
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* http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/IPhone
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* [[G1]]
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[[User:MinhHaDuong|MinhHaDuong]] 14:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
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=== The Neo1973 Hardware category ===
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[[Category:Neo1973 Hardware|Neo1973 Hardware]]
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Lots of legacy subcategories, but interesting content.
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=== Category structure discovering and planning ===
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This is a discovery of the category structure around 8/9/08 and notes about how it should be changed. Please contribute, add your comments what should be changed and how. Thanks, [[User:Kempelen|Kempelen]]
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===[[:category:Applications|Applications]]===
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Software programs for the Openmoko smartphones.  When there are some more articles in one specific type create a subcategory for it. When you add an application to a subcategory, do not add it to the main. [[User:Kempelen|Kempelen]]
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* [[:Category:Audio Applications|Audio Applications]] (freedesktop: yes)
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* [[:category:GPS Applications|GPS Applications]] (freedesktop: no)
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* [[:category:Gaming|Gaming]] (freedesktop: as "Game", propse renaming to "Games")
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* [[:Category:Graphics Applications|Graphics Applications]] (freedesktop: yes)
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* [[:category:Internet Applications|Internet Applications]]  (freedestkop as "Network" which would conflict with [[:category:Networking]])
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* [[:category:Office Applications|Office Applications]] (freedesktop: yes)
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* [[:category:Server|Server]] (one single article!) (freedesktop: no)
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* [[:category:Settings Applications|Settings Applications]]  (freedesktop: yes)
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* [[:Category:System Applications|System Applications]] (freedesktop: yes)
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* [[:category:Telephony|Telephony]]  (GSM, GPRS, SMS..) (freedesktop: no)
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* [[:Category:Utility Applications|Utility Applications]] (freedesktop: yes)
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* [[:Category:Video Applications|Video Applications]] (freedesktop: yes)
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===[[:category:Host OSes|Host OSes]]===
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This could be in some subcategory, but there is no good place.
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===[[:category:Community|Community]]===
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Community involvement
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* [[:Category:Business|Business]]
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* [[:Category:Community Update|Community Update]]
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* [[:category:Event|Event]]
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* [[:Category:Group Sales|Group Sales]]
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* [[:category:OpenLab|OpenLab]]
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* [[:Category:Openmoko Local Groups|Openmoko Local Groups]]
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* [[:Category:Purchase|Purchase]]
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* [[:Category:Wiki Editing|Wiki Editing]]
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** [[:Category:Candidates for speedy deletion|Candidates for speedy deletion]]
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** [[:Category:Improve]]
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===[[:Category:Phones|Phones]] ===
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* [[:category:GTA03|GTA03]]
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* [[:category:GTA04|GTA04]]
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* [[:category:Neo FreeRunner Hardware|Neo FreeRunner Hardware]]
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* [[:category:Neo1973 Hardware|Neo1973 Hardware]]
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** [[:category:Neo1973 Phase 0 related|Neo1973 Phase 0 related]]
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** [[:category:Neo1973 Phase 1 related|Neo1973 Phase 1 related]]
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** [[:category:Neo1973 Hardware Debugging|Neo1973 Hardware Debugging]]
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** [[:category:Neo1973 alternate cases|Neo1973 alternate cases]]
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** [[:category:Neo1973 and external hardware|Neo1973 and external hardware]]
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===[[:category:Hardware|Hardware]]===
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Functional subsystems. :) Descriptions of various hardware components. Kernel driver info and other software for the hardware component (in subcategories).
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* [[:category:Accelerometer|Accelerometer]]
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* [[:category:Audio|Audio]]
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* [[:category:Battery|Battery]]
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* [[:category:Bluetooth|Bluetooth]]
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* [[:category:CPU|CPU]]
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* [[:category:Chip|Chip]]
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* [[:category:Debug Board|Debug Board]]
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* [[:category:Diagram|Diagram]]
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* [[:category:Flash|Flash]]
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* [[:category:GPS|GPS]]
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* [[:category:GSM|GSM]]
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* [[:Category:Hardware ideas|Hardware ideas]]
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** [[:Category:Neo1973 alternate cases|Neo1973 alternate cases]]
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* [[:category:Networking|Networking]]
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** [[:category:Standard|Standard]]
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** [[:category:Protocol|Protocol]]
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* [[:category:Used chip|Used chip]]
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* [[:category:USB|USB]]
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* [[:category:Vibrator|Vibrator]]
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===[[:category:Distributions|Distributions]]===
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* [[:category:Angstrom|Angstrom]]
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* [[:category:Debian|Debian]]
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* [[:category:FSO|FSO]]
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* [[:category:Framework|Framework]]
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* [[:category:Om 2007.2|Om 2007.2]]
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* [[:category:Om 2008.8|Om 2008.8]]
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* [[:category:Qtopia|Qtopia]]
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* [[:category:SHR|SHR]]
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===[[:category:Guides|Guides]]===
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General documentation categorized by target audience. The Guides root should not contain articles.
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* [[:Category:Advanced End User|Advanced End User]]
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** [[:Category:Flashing Openmoko|Flashing Openmoko]]
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* [[:Category:Application Developer|Application Developer]]
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** [[:Category:D-Bus|D-Bus]]
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** [[:Category:Diagram|Diagram]]
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** [[:Category:Emulation|Emulation]]
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** [[:Category:Framework|Framework]]
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** [[:Category:User Interfaces|User Interfaces]]
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* [[:Category:Basic End User|Basic End User]]
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** [[:Category:Add-on data|Add-on data]]
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** [[:Category:Carriers|Carriers]]
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** [[:Category:Profile|Profile]]
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* [[:Category:System Developers|System Developers]]
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** [[:Category:Emulation|Emulation]]
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** [[:Category:Framework|Framework]]
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** [[:Category:Kernel|Kernel]]
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** [[:Category:Test]]
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*** [[:Category:Development Board|Development Board]]
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*** [[:Category:Hardware Test|Hardware Test]]
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*** [[:Category:Software Test|Software Test]]
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** [[:Category:User Interfaces|User Interfaces]]
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===[[:Category:Maturity Level]]===
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* [[:Category:Ideas|Ideas]]
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** [[:Category:Hardware ideas|Hardware ideas]]
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*** [[:Category:Neo1973 alternate cases|Neo1973 alternate cases]]
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** [[:Category:Software ideas|Software ideas]]
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* [[:Category:Implemented|Implemented]]
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* [[:Category:In progress|In progress]]
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* [[:Category:Progress unknown|Progress unknown]]
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* [[:Category:ToDo|ToDo]]
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* [[:Category:Unimplemented|Unimplemented]]
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Applications category contains subcategories for various application groups, like GPS, Networking... This may be a problem if e.g. GPS belongs to Applications and Hardware too (and most of these stuff will belong to both). Maybe we could simply add articles to Applications AND GPS, which won't be subcategories of each other. [[User:Kempelen|Kempelen]] 20:54, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
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Basic End User and Advanced End User categories have been created instead User, which was not enough specific term. (And contained only WishList items!) [[User:Kempelen|Kempelen]]
  
 
== Archived discussions ==
 
== Archived discussions ==
  
 
[[/archive1| Archived 2008-09-12 : discussions leading to the recategorization of categories]]
 
[[/archive1| Archived 2008-09-12 : discussions leading to the recategorization of categories]]

Latest revision as of 20:48, 25 September 2008

Okay I think we have sanitized the top-level structure, but lots remains to be done !

  • Multilinguism
  • Categorizing Templates (not started)
  • Categorizing uncategorized pages (mostly done)
  • Categorizing uncategorized categories (almost complete, waiting on multilinguism)
  • Recategorizing poorly categorized pages (ongoing task, waiting on categorization to settle)
  • Rewriting the category pages text (waiting on categorization to settle)
  • Some more shuffling around subcategories remains to be done
  • Clickable tree is ugly/less functional than directory-style list of subcategories (but automatic ? discussing values and goals)
  • Clean the Wiki Issue page of Categorization talk too (mostly done)
  • Integrate with the Wiki-wide navigation system (left column, main page, navboxes)
  • Besides "Distributions" the name of top level categories are all questionable
    • Rename "Community" as "People" and move "Openmoko Inc." there ? (btw there is no 'move' for categories, only create new / move content / delete old)
    • Is "Maturity level" as self explining as I think it should be ?

So much work, so little time !

MinhHaDuong 07:47, 13 September 2008 (UTC) Updated: MinhHaDuong 06:53, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] Moved here from Wiki Issues

MinhHaDuong 14:36, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] General issues with categories

  • Please read wikipedia Categorization page and FAQ
  • There are way too many categories.
  • There should be only one category taxonomy for the "Neo type" with subcategories "FreeRunner", "Neo1973", "GTA03"... Otherwise, categories should not include the Neo type.
  • Another big taxonomy can be based on the layers model. "Chips", "Drivers", "Operating system", "Framework", "Applications"

[edit] The Ideas category

1. Many pages have Wishlist: in the title. This syntax is potentially confusing because there is no Wishlist: namespace. TEH BOT did a mass rename from "Wishlist:(.*)" to "Wishlist/\1" ? Thanks.

2. A significant minority of pages in the "Category:ideas" are missing the prefix in the title.

3. There are two templates, { { Wishlist } } and { { Unimplemented } } . We agreed on the ML (10/9/08 IIRC) that it is unnecessary redundancy.

[edit] The test category

Is it organized and how ? MinhHaDuong 10:11, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Can we move these pages under a new subcategory of Test ?

MinhHaDuong 14:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Neo1973 Hardware category

Lots of legacy subcategories, but interesting content.

[edit] Category structure discovering and planning

This is a discovery of the category structure around 8/9/08 and notes about how it should be changed. Please contribute, add your comments what should be changed and how. Thanks, Kempelen

[edit] Applications

Software programs for the Openmoko smartphones. When there are some more articles in one specific type create a subcategory for it. When you add an application to a subcategory, do not add it to the main. Kempelen

[edit] Host OSes

This could be in some subcategory, but there is no good place.

[edit] Community

Community involvement

[edit] Phones

[edit] Hardware

Functional subsystems. :) Descriptions of various hardware components. Kernel driver info and other software for the hardware component (in subcategories).

[edit] Distributions

[edit] Guides

General documentation categorized by target audience. The Guides root should not contain articles.

[edit] Category:Maturity Level

Applications category contains subcategories for various application groups, like GPS, Networking... This may be a problem if e.g. GPS belongs to Applications and Hardware too (and most of these stuff will belong to both). Maybe we could simply add articles to Applications AND GPS, which won't be subcategories of each other. Kempelen 20:54, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Basic End User and Advanced End User categories have been created instead User, which was not enough specific term. (And contained only WishList items!) Kempelen

[edit] Archived discussions

Archived 2008-09-12 : discussions leading to the recategorization of categories

Personal tools

Okay I think we have sanitized the top-level structure, but lots remains to be done !

  • Multilinguism
  • Categorizing templates
  • Categorizing the pages themselves
  • Rewriting the category pages text
  • Some more shuffling around subcategories remains to be done
  • Clickable tree is ugly/less functional than directory-style list of subcategories (but automatic ?)
  • Clean the Wiki Issue page too
  • Integrate with the Wiki-wide navigation system (left column, main page, navboxes)
  • Besides "Distributions" the name of top level categories are all questionable
    • Rename "Community" as "We the people" and move "Openmoko Inc." there ?
    • Is "Maturity level" as self explining as I think it should be ?
    • "Technical" is nondescriptive

So much work, so little time !

MinhHaDuong 07:47, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Archived discussions

Archived 2008-09-12 : discussions leading to the recategorization of categories