Openmoko have announced a scheme to sell the forthcoming Neo Freerunner at a discount if bought in multiples of 10 (US$369, instead of 399), to be shipped in one package. Group buying will thus save money on the purchase, and on the shipping. This page is to to organise group purchases by region.
For calculating shipping costs, the dimensions of one 10-pack is 435mm x 371mm x 119mm. The weight should be around 3kg.
Steve from Openmoko announced "Every 10 pack, will come with a box of stuff. 10 pouches and 10 head sets."
So join us within a local group !
Australia
Customs And Postage
Because of Australian customs, it might be better to form groups of two. That way we (Australians) will fall under the $1000 amount for import items and not have to pay the extra customs / taxes .
Customs information for Australia can be found here.
Nick Devereaux has worked out the per-phone cost of an Australian bulk order compared to an individual order. Thanks to Simon Matthews for updating the shipping details. The postage is approximated on an estimate by Steve that shipping to Europe bulk is $160 and individual is $70. Australia should be similar to this.
Bulk Order
|
$US
|
$AUS
|
Customs Value (Cval)
|
$3690.00
|
$3837.60
|
Postage
|
$160.00
|
$166.40
|
Value Of Taxable Importation (VoTI) =Cval+Postage
|
$3850.00
|
$4004.00
|
Goods And Services Tax (GST) =10% of VoTI
|
$385.00
|
$400.40
|
Total Cost
|
$4235.00
|
$4404.40
|
Per Person
|
$423.50
|
$440.44
|
Individual Order
|
$US
|
$AUS
|
Value
|
$399.00
|
$414.96
|
Postage
|
$70.00
|
$72.80
|
Total Cost
|
N/A
|
$487.76
|
using the above rates and calculations, an order for two people (small group) would cost
$414.96 + $414.96 = 829.92 for the total of the phones and then 72.80 for the shipping.
Thus, the total cost would be 902.72 and $451.36 per a person ( as the value of the goods is less than $aud1000. i don't think taxes apply).
Postage quote from http://www1.auspost.com.au/pac/int_parcel.asp
Figures accurate as of 26th May 2008, 1$ USD = $1.04 AUD.
Amalgamating Australian Group Buys
Simon Matthews is trying to amalgamate the group buys from each state into one Australia wide purchase. The advantage of this is that no one will miss out on the group buy discount and only a few will miss out on the 10 group buy extra goodies.
If you are not part of a group buy that has already been organised or haven't been contacted by someone else in your state regarding the group buys feel free to contact me.
Western Australia
Perth
Status: 10/10
Status: 1/10
- 1x Bruce Mohan (via Simon Matthews)
New South Wales
Sydney
status: 10/10 ( one group)
Please add an "I exist" to end of your name here.
We now have 10 people (that seem to exist). I would to suggest like openmoko the company allow group sale deposits into accounts on behalf of groups.
With perhaps the package sent to sydney and then to a po box or split to finish the journey to the buyers.
Confirmed
Unconfirmed
potential group 2 (1/10)
Surfless From the edit revisions we can see that you added your self to group one of sydney after we had ten members.
As per http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=GroupSales&diff=34002&oldid=33677
If this is not correct please state so under here. You have been contacted regardless as we are not sure of
the confirmed number of people. However, in the future could all users who want to join a group try to follow the documentation set out.
You can at least say yes i am 11 / 10 (for the first group - aka i am the extra).
Victoria
Melbourne
Status: 8/10
- 4x Dennis Wollersheim, mailto: dewoller (at) gmail (dot) com
- 1x Dale Maggee, mailto: antisol (at) earthling (dot) net
- 1x Matt Price: mailto: coolcat22 (at) bigpond (dot) com
- 1x Daniel Chandler: contact me here
- 1X Hugh Stephens, mailto: hughstephens <at> hughstephens <dot> com
ACT
Canberra
Status: 1/10
Queensland
Brisbane
Status: 10/10
Status: 1/10
South Australia
Adelaide
Status: 7/10
List
There is a list available for people in SA who want to try and organise together.
http://lists.maincontent.net/listinfo.cgi/openmoko-orders-sa-maincontent.net
Austria
There is a group-buy page at MetaLab, available here: http://metalab.at/wiki/OpenMoko .. we almost have the full 10 slots assigned, and its quite possible that we will order *20* phones, so please register on the Metalab pages and let us know if you're interested ..
Salzburg
Status: 1/10
- D. Kepplinger (at MetaLab)
Wien
Status: 2/10
Styria
Graz
Group 1: Status: 10/10
Group 2: Status: 3/10
Belgium
Flanders
Brussel/Aalst/Aarschot/Gent/Brugge
Status 9/10
- 2x Dolfje Contact me here
- XVens, mailto: xavier DOT vens AT gmail DOT com
- Arno85, mailto: aaron DOT helin AT gmail DOT com, Kortrijk
- Rubenv, mailto: ruben D0T vandamme MAILAT belgacom D0T net, Kortrijk
- Yvo Brasseur, mailto: yvo_brasseur AT archon DOT be Living in Aarschot, working in Brussels.
- Emmanuel Mathot, mailto: aiieeee DOT gmail DOT com, Brussels
- Kamil Kubacki, mailto: kamil DOT kubacki AT gmail DOT com [or kamil.kubacki@gmail.com]
- Hans Vanpée, mailto: hans AT vanpee DOT be
ps: Dolfje can bring freerunners to Brugge if needed
Antwerp
Status 10/10
Wallonia
Walloon Brabant / Liège
Status: 2/10
- Istvan, mailto: buki DOT istvan AT gmail DOT com
- Léo, mailto leo DOT studer AT gmail DOT com
Bulgaria
Sofia
Sofia
Status : 5/10
Canada
British Columbia
Status : 12/10
- Justin (Vancouver): mailto: stryderjzw AT gmail
- Dave (Vancouver) Vancouver Linux users group (unconfirmed but about 7 so far): mailto: doc AT skynet REMOVE dot REMOVE ie
- Steven (Victoria) - If someone in the group will remail the package for me. mailto: skurylo --> gmail dot com
- Morley (Victoria) - If someone in the group will mail to the island. mailto:morleyw@gmail.com
- Robert (Vancouver) - robtaylor <AT> tinsputnik <DOT> com (1 unit)
- Jeff (Vancouver) - jef dot jef gmail com
- Doug (Vancouver) - illusion65 at gmail (1 + debug)
Alberta
Status : 8/10
Ontario/Quebec
GTA (Toronto)
Status : 10/10
- Gerald A Contact me here
- MattC, mailto: quirkz AT gmail
- Sergey K, openmoko AT deeptown dOt org
- Kristin Low, kristin dot low at gmail dot com (Kingston)
- Daniel Lister, gmail(dan.lister)
- Ronnie Wong: 3 units - r25wong AT ryerson dOT ca
- Paul V Contact me here
- Matt Manjos, matt (AT) manjos * com
Group 2 Status (Hamilton): 7/10
- Gabriel D - ace AT staticwave DOT ca
- Richard D - rtdegelder --> gmail.com
- Steve S - ssinger_pg AT sympatico dot ca
- Wolfram Kahl - kahl McMaster CA
- Paul Wouters - paul@xelerance.com 2 units
- John Hurley - nybble at eml dot cc
Group 3 Status (Montréal): 2/10
- Patrick Hétu - patrick AT koumbit DOT org
- Eric Lebel - lebeleri AT aei DOT ca
Chile
Santiago
Status : 6/10
- User:Mankeke Ricardo Manríquez C., mailto: ricardo.manriquez "remove this and add AT" gmail "dot" com
- User:XKnightmareX Gonzalo Pesenti., mailto: mare.knight1 "remove this and add AT" gmail "dot" com
- User:Freyes Felipe Reyes., mailto: felipereyes "remove this and add AT" gmail "dot" com
- User:Zeus Jonathan Gonzalez., mailto: zeus "remove this and add AT" gnu "dot" org
- User:crsepulv Cristian Sepúlveda, mailto: sepulveda.cristian@gmail.com
- User:nischg Nicolás Schubert, mailto: nischg@gmail.com
China
BeiJing
Status:9/10
ShangHai
Status:1/10
Guangzhou
Status:1/10
Colombia
Bogotá
Status: 1/10
Denmark
If we do not reach a total large enough, Denmark **is** a very small place - surely we could figure out a way of getting them to find their way 'round the country :)
Jutland
Aalborg
Status: 6/10
Should anyone need it, transportation from Aalborg to Thisted for phones can be arranged, if you don't want to pick it up in Aalborg yourself :) ~leinir
As it looks right now, it seems that it would be cheaper and easier for us to buy through Pulster in Germany - see the following email: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017778.html ~leinir
Aarhus
Status: 3/10
Skjern
Status: 1/10
Sønderborg
Status: 1/10
Fyn
Status: 4/10
(Unnless others join Esben and Peter will join the Copenhagen order and Peter will pick up the phones for Fyn in Copenhagen)
Sjælland
Copenhagen
Status: 29/10 (33 including the 4 for Fyn - see above)
Estonia
Tallinn
Let's see if we can get ten people together for this. I'm willing to organise the local distribution if we can. Spread the word and try to get more locals interested in it. Yogiz 08:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Status 1/10
Finland
Uusimaa
Note to gta02v6 waiting people:"The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT
LEDs a5 and a6 have the same power consumption". So, no problem? Also a quote from Neo FreeRunner GTA02 Hardware#GTA02v6: "Capacitor and resistor change A6 also on mass production A5".
Helsinki I (Full)
Status : 10/10
Helsinki II, Turku & Vaasa
Status : 7/10
Helsinki:
- Risto H. Kurppa
risto AT kurppa DOT fi
- Aapo Rantalainen
aapo DOT rantalainen AT gmail DOT com
- Matti Laakso
matti DOT laakso AT kotiposti DOT net
- Ismo Haanaho
ismo DOT haanaho AT gmail DOT com
- Ilari Oras
ilari DOT oras AT welho DOT com
Turku:
- Jaakko Lehtinen, jaakko dot lehtinen at gmail dot com
Vaasa:
- Mikko Niemikorpi, mikefulli ÄT gmail PISTE com
FYI, removed from list (waiting for GTA02v6):
Lappi
Kemi
Status : 3/10
Discuss the order here
Kemi:
- Henri Valta
henri PISTE valta ÄT kemi PISTE fi
- Tommi Juvonen
tassi ÄT mediapumppu PISTE info
- Jaakko Pörhö
ensteinfrank ÄT hotmail PISTE com
France
Bretagne
Brest
Status : 1/10
Rennes
Status : 3/10
- Cédric DUFOUIL (openmoko at tsleg point com)
- Yves MAHE (ymahe at zindep dot com)
- Guillaume BERTHELOM (yogui29 at gmail dot com)
Pays de la Loire
La Roche sur Yon
Status : 1/10
Nantes
Status : 2/10
Nord
Ile de france
Paris
Status : 23/30
You may also see :
http://bearstech.com/shop
Lorraine
Nancy
Status : 1/10
Rhône-Alpes
Lyon
Status : 2/10
Grenoble
Status : 3/10
Alpes de Haute Provence
Manosque
Status : 1/10
Provence Alpes Cote d'Azur
Sophia Antipolis
Status : 4/10
Midi-Pyrénées
Toulouse
Status: 2/10
Germany
Baden-Württemberg
Karlsruhe
- Spacemarine 2 Freerunner. -- I'm managing the communication between the groupbuyers, so please contact me if you are interested and haven't received an email from me yet. We will meet at the Kalug Meeting http://www.karlsruhe.linux.de/ on 26. 5. 2008 to discuss things further.
- Dr.Nop (inzw. Ludwigsburg, falls es sich anbietet könnte ich auch zur Leonberger Gruppe wechseln)
- JensB
- Tedo
- Gromgull (in Kaiserslautern, but Karlsruhe is close enough, and I doubt that I'll find 10 people here.
- Ebi
- Fabian
- Gollum in Mannheim, ditto :) Maybe local postal service is an option?
- Sebastian (in Kaiserslautern on workdays and Daun/Eifel during the weekend)
- Roduit In Heidelberg. Karlsruhe is close enough.
- cfo Karlsruhe
- Adonres Karlsruhe - Hope I'm not too late.
- Nomeata is interested
Leonberg
Status 10/10
Tübingen
Status 5/10
- MiTo
- NoBody close to tuebingen and stuttgart (between both)
- eliasp (3 Freerunner (me, qknight + sbock) - Tübingen downtown
- nobs thinking about buying one; if I am #10, count me in; if there is someone else #11 you can drop me
Ulm
Status: 2/10
- mzanetti
- Lord_Evil ich nehm auch eins. Evtl. kann ich mich auch an Augsburg anhängen.
Bayern
Augsburg
Status 6/10
I just want to see if there are enough people to fill up to ten. So add your name here if you are interested.
- whoever - Ich nehm eins, wenn die Münchner keines übrig haben.
- Nightmare - Ich will auf jeden Fall eins haben
- paddy2706 - Ein OpenMoko bitte :)
Wann werden die dann bestellt/gezahlt? Dauert bei mir no kurz bis ichs Geld für zusammen hab aber dann nehm ich eins.
MfG MookiE
Hallo, ich würde mich für einen Freerunner interessieren. Wie sieht es mit Zoll aus? Kommt der noch dazu?
Murks
$3690 (10 Freerunner)
+ $ 160 (Versand lt. Australiern)
=======
$3850
$3850
+ $ 732 (19% Einfuhrumsatzsteuer)
+ $ 0 (kein Zoll für Handys)
=======
$4582
$458 / 1,5$/€ = 305 € pro Telefon (als Richtwert)
München
Wir suchen noch einen Organisator für die Bestellung! Weiß jemand, was man so alles beachten muss?
Diskussion auf der Münchner UserGroup Seite!
Hilf mit, eine Münchner UserGroup aufzubauen!
Status 14/20
- whoever 02. Juni 2008 (München oder Augsburg, ich mach bei der Gruppe mit, die mir als erste ein Freerunner "garantiert")
- Beni 05. Juni 2008
- Nosyjoe 08. Juni 2008
- peter_b needs 2 Freerunner 16. Juni 2008
- Eriks Unfortunately I have to sign me off. So somebody else has to arrange it. I'm really sorry about that. :-(
Berlin
Berlin
Help to form a Berlin User Group!
Status 14/20
Bremen
Bremen
Status 3/10
Bremerhaven
Hamburg
Hamburg
Status 9-10
Hessen
Frankfurt
Status 1-10
Niedersachsen
Hannover
Status 1
NRW
Aachen
Status 4/10
Bielefeld
Status 4/10
Bocholt
(Fachhochschule in Bocholt)
Düsseldorf
Sachsen-Anhalt
Stendal (evtl. Magdeburg)
Status 1/10
Thueringen
Weimar
Status 1/10
Ilmenau
Status 1/10
Sachsen
Eventuell sollten wir eine gemeinsame Bestellung für ganz Sachsen machen, damit wir auf ausreichend Leute kommen.
Chemnitz
Status 2/10
Dresden
Status 1/10
Leipzig
Status 2/10
Hungary
Good to know:
ordering rules:
- anyone can add and remove him/herself on the list - new names MUST be _appended_ to the list
- please use real name and working e-mail address
- although this list is informative, please extend it _only_ if you are really serious about ordering it
- coordinator contacts everyone interested prior to actual buying
Budapest
- Ferenc 'Lion' Veres Contact lion kukac netngine pont hu
- Laszlo 'rka' Szabo Contact
- tg Contact
- LiRul - lirul [KUKAC] hixsplit [PONT] hu
- Nyosigomboc - nyos [KUKAC] nyos [PONT] homelinux [PONT] net
- Ludvig Adam - hunludvig [KUKAC] gmail [PONT] com
- Dániel 'asd' Vásárhelyi
- btamas, Contact
- Kovács 'ka87' András, andras [kukac] csevego [pont] net
- pcm, pcm [kukac] freemail [pont] hu
- gpiros, geza [PONT] piros [KUKAC] gmail [PONT] com
- Áron Preisinger, appa00 [kukac] gmail [pont] com Contact
- pierre286, Contact
- Hélei Zoltán, heleiz [kukac] gmail
- Radics Áron, raron @ vipmail . hu
- Laszlo Szomor Contact
- tr3w Contact
- Ferenc Szomor Contact
- Bolyóczki Zsombor, mogorva kukac tuxworx pont hu
- Sütő Zoltán, suto dot zoltan at t dash online dot hu
- Zsolt Pittmann, pittmann dot zsolt at gmail dot com
- KREKACS Laszlo, laszlo {pont} krekacs {pont} list {kukacka} gmail {pont} com
- Móker Tamás - rwind [KUKAC] apacheweb [PONT] hu
- Krisztián Kovács, Contact
- Tamas Michalik, Contact
- Peter Roosz, Contact
- Eduard Iacoboaia, Contact
- László Vadász, Contact
Kecskemét
Dániel Vásárhelyi handles transportation to Kecskemét, therefore it is not necessary to collect 10 all pieces here.
India
Bangalore
Status 1/10
Delhi/NCR
Status 2/10
- Sameer Mohamed Thahir Contact
- Pratul Kalia (lut4rp) pratulkalia [at] gmail [dot] com
Italy
For more informations and to organize groups, visit the
BUT please keep adding your name and email to the list below
If we don't reach the 10 phones limit in each city, maybe we could place an order in the "most requested city", and from shipping to other buyers. We'll have anyway a good discount although the "double-shipping". (Read here for reference).
Toscana
Firenze (e dintorni)
Status 11/10
Lombardia
Milano e dintorni
Status 24/30
Organizzazione preliminare DEPRECATA lì 11 Maggio 2008.
Da ora in poi usiamo il Freerunner Italian Group Sales.
Ad ogni modo, per stabilire le precedenze nella prenotazione dei pacchi da 10 pezzi
continuate ad aggiugerVi nella lista qui sotto
Piemonte
Torino (and province)
Status 10/10
Per coordinamento Freerunner Italian Group Sales (Torino)
Precedenza è stabilita in base all'ordine di aggiunta nella lista inizale
- Gruppo 1 (prime persone a fare l'ordine):
1 x Claudio Carnino (jollyr0g3r AT gmail DOT com)
1 x Alessandro Degano (a.degano AT gmail DOT com)
1 x Enrico Pigozzi (videokill71 AT gmail DOT com)
1 x Max Ciavarella - Contacts here
1 x Giuseppe Barbieri (elect86 at gmail dot com)
1 x Riccardo Issoglio (riccardo.issoglio AT polito DOT it)
1 x Flavio Pastore Contacts here
1 x Michele Renda ( mic DOT renda AT email DOT it )
2 x Katjia Mirri (gattoniglia AT gmail DOT com ) two items (ne voglio due)!!
- Gruppo 2 (coloro che non ci stanno nel primo gruppo o che vogliono aspettare che il primo gruppo abbia ricevuto il telefono):
1 x Giovanni Di Mingo ( pino_otto AT yahoo DOT com )
1 x Marco Forasacco (zer0fil3 AT gmail DOT com)
1 x Gabriele Martino (pierino DOT the DOT living DOT joke AT gmail DOT com)
1 x Massimo Valerio (my AT massimovalerio DOT it)
...
(aggiungersi chi è nuovo)
LISTA ORIGINALE (24/05/08 14:48):
- Claudio Carnino
(jollyr0g3r AT gmail DOT com)
- Alessandro Degano
(a.degano AT gmail DOT com)
- Enrico Pigozzi
(videokill71 AT gmail DOT com)
- Max Ciavarella - Contacts here
- Giuseppe Barbieri (elect86 at gmail dot com)
- Riccardo Issoglio
(riccardo.issoglio AT polito DOT it)
- Flavio Pastore Contacts here
- Michele Renda ( mic DOT renda AT email DOT it )
- Katjia Mirri (gattoniglia AT gmail DOT com ) two items (ne voglio due)!!
- Giovanni Di Mingo ( pino_otto AT yahoo DOT com )
- Marco Forasacco
(zer0fil3 AT gmail DOT com)
- Gabriele Martino
(pierino DOT the DOT living DOT joke AT gmail DOT com)
- Massimo Valerio
(my AT massimovalerio DOT it)
Trentino-Alto Adige
Trento
Status 4/10
- Vincenzo D'Andrea (vincenzo.dandrea AT gmail DOT com)
(also Verona is OK - and I can carry others' phone VR to TN or viceversa)
- 1x Tarcisio Fedrizzi (tarcisio.fedrizzi AT gmail DOT com)
- Emanuele Olivetti (emanuele CHIOCCIOLA relativita PUNTO com)
- Marco Ciampa (ciampix (*) libero (*) it)
Friuli Venezia Giulia
Trieste
Status: 1/10
Veneto
Status: 14/20
Verona
Vicenza
Venezia
Treviso
Emilia Romagna
Status : 6/10
Parma
Status : 2/10
- Leonardo Rossi ssj3gokou AT libero Dot it Also for me it's ok the decentralized shipping.
Ravenna
Status : 2/10
- Stefano Ronconi fanharlok AT libero Dot it decentralized shipping is ok.
- vagamente AT gmail DOT com (even hub if it's necessary...). ( se ti vanno bene ambo le citta' basta dirlo tra parentesi. Cosi', si fa confusione :) )
Bologna
Status : 1/10
- Lorenzo nixy_999 AT yahoo Dot it Also for me it's ok the decentralized shipping.
- vagamente AT gmail DOT com (even hub if it's necessary...).
- Mauro lord.of.the.dimm AT gmail DOT com decentralized shipping: OK.
Puglia
Lecce
Status : 2/10
Bari
Status : 2/10
Abruzzo
Pescara
Status: 1/10
Campania
Caserta (and province)
Status 1/10
Lazio
Roma
Status 10/10
Per coordinamento Freerunner Italian Group Sales (Roma)
La precedenza è stabilita in base all'ordine di aggiunta nella lista inizale
Gruppo 1 (completo):
Liguria
Genova
Status 5/10
- Luca Maranzano X 1 (liuk AT linux DOT it) liuk
- Lorenzo Fornara X 1 (fw1987 AT hotmail DOT it)
- Stefano Cutelle' X 1 (staff@ascservices.it) ascservices
- Andrea De Gaetano X 1 (dega1999 AT gmail DOT com) Dega1999
- Salvo Schiavone X 1 (salvoschiavone AT gmail DOT com Salvador
Sicilia
Palermo
Status 10/10
Messina
Status 6/10
Calabria
Status 2/10
Catanzaro
Cosenza
Sardegna
Cagliari
Status 1/10
Viaggio per tutta l'Isola, per cui, nel caso in cui arrivassimo a 10 utenti...
Macedonia
Skopje
Status 1/10
México
Ciudad de México
Status 1/10
Ciudad Victoria
Status 3/10
- 3x Gregorio Toscano email
(Discuss this group sale on the talk page)
Gelderland
Nijkerk
Nijmegen
Groningen
Haren
Limburg
Griendtsveen
Noord-Brabant
Bergen op Zoom
Eindhoven
Noord Holland
Amsterdam
Beverwijk
Bussum
Overijssel
Deventer
Enschede
Hengelo
Zwolle
Zuid-Holland
Rijswijk
Zoetermeer
Utrecht
Utrecht
Status
27/30
New Zealand
As Telecom are using the 850MHz network for their GSM network, and Vodafone/northelia (possibly aka orcon) are using 900/1800MHz, please state which version you want. This may need more research, I'm not 100%; see [10] for more info
Based on info from steve (openmoko marketing) concerning weight and size, shipping via UPS will be about US$185 (NZ$23 each phone) to Auckland.
UPS are far from the cheapest, but (again according to steve), OM have a contract with them, so this is what we are stuck with
Someone on the community list suggested using [11], a shipping company that will re-post items overseas at decent rates. They claim US$66 for a 3kg package, or NZ$8 per phone. Of course, the cost of shipping the phone from OM to the shipping company has to be added in as well.
As of 2008-06-14, US$369 is worth NZ$492
import duty on mobile phones is 0%[12], and GST is 12.5% so the GST added to each phone will be NZ$64; 12.5% * (477 + 23), cos we pay GST on postage too...
So, the total cost of a Freerunner as part of a 10 pack, will be:
492 + 23 + 64
= NZ$579
+ any possible charges to get it posted elsewhere in New Zealand
Auckland
Status:10 phones requested, the required minimum (10 phones) is reached, but more buyers are still welcome to join.
12/20
- Rob Paulson User:Myfanwy [13] 900MHz
- i'm quite happy to organise the purchase, if no-one has any objections. to ease any worries about me running off with the money, we could use an escrow service such as [14], or paypal. or does anyone have any other ideas?
- Simon Wells User:Swel024 900MHz
- Jeremy List User:Jeremy-list mailto:quick.dudley@gmail.com (Wellington, not Auckland, will pay for courier) 900MHz
- David Murrell User:Viddy - [15] I'm in Hamilton, either courier, or I'll drive up :) 900MHz
- Jeremy Gray User:Bogdan237 [16] Auckland, 900MHz
- Xuân Baldauf User:xbaldauf [17] Auckland CBD, 900MHz+1800MHz GSM with an EU charger clip instead of an Australian one (if this is in need to be selected). This is conditional: the transaction must complete by 2008-06-30, else I cannot participate, because I'm leaving the country afterwards.
- Paul Roe User:Par08 contact me here Christchurch, 2 x 900MHz
- Dave Lane User:dangerpossum contact Christchurch, 1 x 900MHz + 1800MHz GSM
- Paul Hunkin User:paulhunkin Contact Hamilton (I'll pay for a courier), 1 x 900MHz.
- Paul Sandkuijl User:Edictor Contact me here Napier (I'll pay for postage to Napier from Auckland) and I also suggest a PayPal/Safetrader similar service, 1 Vodafone compatible 900/1800MHz.
- Brent Wood User:pcreso Email Wellington. Will pay courier to Wgtn. 1x Vodafone compatible 900/1800Mhz unit
Wellington
Status: 1/10
Norway
Nordland
Bodø
Status 2/10
Sør-Trøndelag
Trondheim
Status 13/20
Send mail om du er interessert.
Østlandet
Oslo, Akershus, Buskerud, Vestfold
Status 27/30 (+2?)
Østfold
Status 2/10
Vestlandet
Bergen
Status 1/10
Poland
Portugal
Portuguese who are associates of ANSOL, please consider joining TeamANSOL (currently 3/10 members).
We also need to have a cost estimation for Portuguese customs (like the Australians did). 20% sales tax + customs tax is to be expected both for individual or bulk sales, because the price is quite high. But freedom is priceless :)
Aveiro
Aveiro
Status : 1/10
Lisboa
Lisboa
Status : 6/10
Porto
Porto
Status: 1/10
Sweden
If insufficient number of people, orders could be merged and remailed perhaps.
Domestic remailing with Posten as A-class mail of a letter (criteria: length+width+height max 900 mm) weighing max 1 kg, without insurance should cost 44 SEK. 50 SEK more for insurance.
If we end up with more than one 10-pack in Sweden, my guess is that it would probably pay to order everything in one shipment to one address in Sweden to save on the international shipping, and then remail domestically.
Götaland
Göteborg
Malmö
Status : 1/10
Svealand
Stockholm
Status : 10/10
Örebro
Status : 1/10
Västerås
Status : 2/10
- Jörgen Lidholm, could join the Falun/Borlänge or Stockholm group
[23]
- John Törnblom, can also join the Stockholm group
[24]
Falun & Borlänge
Status : 4/10
Norrland
Umeå
Status : 2/10
Luleå
Status : 2/10
Switzerland
François Bianco is trying to create a new group of 10 (will be mostly for French Switzerland). -> The group moved to the EPFL group, which will try to reach 20 persons. --Fbianco 11:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Gabriel Ambuehl would volunteer to order the initial 10pack. <- still accurate ?
-- Gabriel will not organize the 10packs for Zürich due to not being in Switzerland. We are in contact to find a solution so please wait until we know what to do. Order in Germany (each for himself or as a group, not clear yet) could be as cheap as a 10pack. We are in contact with pulster.de and will be contacted form pulster about the price. We will contact you guys in the Zürich list as soon as we know more --Tuxfux.ch 10:26, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Alexandre Ghisoli will not organize the second 10pack, since the order moved in the Lucca's group.
Luca Capello could organize the third 10pack (mostly for French Switzerland).
Mathieu will probably organisze the 4th 10pack. (Lausanne)
All the 4 with payment in advance (a 10pack will cost approx 3'800 USD).
Probably we will organize shipping, if we cannot all move to Zürich/Genève to get our Neo.
Customs and Postage
I called the Swiss Federal Customs Administration and it seems that we only need to pay VAT (7.6%) and the UPS taxes as well (since the parcel will be sent through UPS). Thus I called UPS and it seems that UPS directly pays the VAT instead of the customer, then asking the customer for refund (plus a fixed tax of EUR13.00). So I think the following per-phone cost for a Swiss bulk order should be a good estimate.
Bulk Order
|
USD
|
CHF
|
Customs Value (Cval)
|
3690.00
|
3837.60
|
Postage
|
160.00
|
166.40
|
Value of Taxable Importation (VoTI) = Cval+Postage
|
3850.00
|
4004.00
|
VAT = 7.6% of VoTI
|
292.60
|
304.30
|
UPS fixed tax (EUR13.00)
|
20.00
|
20.80
|
Total Cost
|
4162.60
|
4329.10
|
Per Person
|
416.26
|
432.91
|
Figures accurate as of 4th Jun 2008 from UBS: 1EUR = 1.54USD and 1USD = 1.04CHF.
Shipping
If we would ship Neos, here is the Swiss PostPac prices :
Description
|
Size [cm]
|
Price CHF TTC
|
Size 1
|
22.9 x 14.7 x 9.9
|
2.20
|
Size 2
|
31.5 x 22.5 x 12.5
|
2.40
|
Shipping Priority
|
up to 2Kg
|
8.-
|
Shipping Economy
|
up to 2Kg
|
6.-
|
Steve posted informations about boxes that will be out with Neo :
- 10 pack : 435mm x 371mm x 119mm, approx 3kg, UPS will charge 160USD (need to be verified)
- Individual pack : 178mm x 104mm x 84mm, 237 grams
So size 1 will fit ! Local delivery in Switzerland will cost 8.20 for Economy or 10.20 Priority.
Zurich
Status : 30/30
Contact person who order the 10Pack : ??
WARNING, this list already contains 20 people! -- LucaCapello
-- I changed from 20 -> 30 Devices in this order. --Tuxfux.ch 18:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Geneve
Status : 10/10
Contact person who order the 10Pack : Luca Capello
WARNING, this list already contains 10 people! -- LucaCapello
Suisse romande / Lausanne (EPFL)
Status : 17/20
Contact person who order the 10Pack : Mathieu Habegger
Spain
Spain (Country Group Sale)
Status: 11/10
Madrid
Madrid
Status : 3/10
- Rafael Campos Contact
1x ( - advanced)
Zaragoza
Zaragoza
Status : 2/10
- Alejandro R. Mosteo
alejandro AT mosteo · com
- Arturo Giner
Contact
Barcelona
Barcelona
Status : 7/10
Valencia
Valencia
Status : 1/10
UAE
Status: 1/10
USA
Arizona
Tucson
Willing to reship to nonlocal people within the US (cheaper if you're closer), or get absorbed into another group that's willing to reship. In talks with Boulder (Colorado) group.
Status: 3/10
- wesshull Wes Shull - 1x GTA02 + 1x debug board
- Richard Reichenbacher - 2x GTA02
Colorado
Boulder
Status: 8/10
- Vinc Duran x2 (I can purchase and distribute locally)
Pfloyd Contact
- John Miller
jwm
- D Padilla
- Joey Stanford
k0fcc
- J Hinegardner
jjh
- S Derrick of New Mexico x2
Denver (Full)
Status: 10/10 (includes the gentleman from Utah)
Fort Collins
Status: 1/10
California
Los Angeles
Status: 7/10
- Ian Douglas, Santa Monica
I'll help organize a group sale, meet & greet, but since I was selected to help test the Freerunner, I won't need to actually purchase one. Contact me here
- Matthew Wetmore, Westchester 90045
Contact
- Daniel
Contact
- James Robertson, Irvine
Contact
- Bill Sun
Contact
- Michael, Santa Monica
Contact
- Russel Dwiggins, Cerritos
Contact
- Dima, Pasadena
Contact
San Diego
Status: 7/10
Includes North County, Riverside, Tijuana, etc.
San Francisco Bay Area
Status: 10/10 Full
(Discuss this group sale, pickup and payments on the talk page)
- Lothar Werzinger (900MHz) - Contact
- William Ray Yeager - (cash) Contact
- Jim Morris - (Agreed to organize purchase) Contact
- Cry Regarder (2 units, cash) Contact
Status 4/10
- Cry Regarder (1 units, cash) Contact
- Paul Mahon - (cash) Contact (San Jose)
Idaho
Southwestern Idaho
Status 2/10
- 1 × Eugene Kravtsov Contact, Garden City (Boise).
- 1 × Christopher Blay Contact, Twin Falls.
Midwest
(combine Illinois / Iowa / Tennesee / Texas / Wisconsin)
Status: 9/10
- Steven M Contact - Cedar Rapids, IA
- Joseph Booker Contact - Chicago, IL
- Matt McCormick Contact - Madison, WI
- Charles Hill email - Chicago, IL
- Greg Bonett email - Iowa City, IA
- Tushar Dayal Contact - Ames, IA
- solomon jacob herscovitch Contact - Chicago, IL
- Eric Olson Contact - Madison, WI
- Frederick Wells email - Chicago, IL
Indiana / Kentucky
Status: 8/10
- Dan Staley Contact (Lexington, KY)
- Donnie Jones Contact (Lexington, KY)
- John Sterling Contact (Lexington, KY)
- James MacLachlan Contact (Louisville, KY)
- John Askew Contact (Lexington, KY)
- Devin Cook Contact (Lexington, KY)
- Geoff Ruscoe Contact - Louisville, KY
- Jon Howard Contact (Lexington, KY)
Ohio / Michigan
Status: 10/10
- David Pais (Unknown City) email
- Dave Ludlow (Toledo) (I can purchase and distribute) Contact
- Adam Steele (Cincinnati) Contact
- Elliot Bailey (Canton) Contact
- Richard Rowell (Grand Rapids) Contact
- Paul Wehr Ann Arbor
- Micah Krafcik (Youngstown) Contact
- Doug Wurtzbacher (Centerville) x2 Contact
- Martin Dicks (Columbus) Contact
Oregon
Eugene
- Quentin Hartman Contact Willing to organize the Oregon group buy and/or be absorbed into another Pacific NW group if too few locals sign up.
Washington
Seattle
Status: 5/10
Tennessee
Memphis
Status: 1/10
Texas
Austin (15/10)
Dallas (2/10)
Mid-Atlantic
District of Columbia (DC) Metro Area
Virginia
Virginia Tech (1/10)
- Lally Singh email -- yeah, if you're ordering anywhere in VA, lemme know.
Richmond (1/10)
New York (11/20)
Maryland (2/10)
- Paul Buede I switched to New York, cause we don't have enough. Look up ^
- Charles Lohr
- Alex (DC/Rosslyn; not 100% sure that will be able to afford it) Contact
North Carolina (3/10)
- Jason Sharpee Contact - Charlotte Metro area
- William Vidrine Contact - Greensboro/Triad area, will be part of an NC order; will drop out and order individually if 10/10 not reached.
- Joe White Contact - Winston-Salem/Triad area
Massachusetts
Status: 10/10 (Full)
- Ken Young, Cambridge (Note, if we're not up to 10/10 on the day the Freerunner is announced, I'm going to drop out and order individually).Contact
- Nick Dube - Pembroke, NH (Will also drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) Contact
- Justin Brzozoski - Worcester, MA area Contact
- John Nicholson - Amherst, MA (Will also drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) Contact
- Matthew Campbell - Worcester, MA Contact
Status: 5/10
- Bala Nair - Acton, MA Contact
- Mike Doody - Groton, MA Contact
- 0x Nathan Perry - Derry, NH (cannot switch to GSM at this time)
- Kyle Harrington - Amherst, MA (Will drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) Contact
- Ryan Svoboda - Worcester, MA (Will buy one individually on release day if this group is incomplete) Contact
- Ryan Meador - Worcester, MA (Will drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) Contact
Nevada
Reno/Sparks
Including Northwestern Nevada/ Northeastern California
Status: 1/10
UK
- Stroller (Milton Keynes, can travel)
mailto:stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk 01908 663 513.
Thinks that breaking the UK up into regions - at least outside London - is silly. There are unlikely to be 10 people in $your_town who want a Freerunner, so some posting of Freerunners will surely be required; see the talk page. This is the same cost anywhere in the UK.
Scotland
Edinburgh
Status : 4/10
- Joe Wells (Edinburgh) Contact Web (I tried to contact Dave Ball and Stuart MacKinnon by the Wiki's e-mail feature, but I got no reply. So I am worried the Wiki's e-mail feature may be broken. So please contact me by going to my web page and using my e-mail address listed there.)
- Dave Ball (Edinburgh) Contact
- Stuart MacKinnon(Livingston)
Contact
- george Maistros (Edinburgh) Contact
Glasgow
Status : 3/10
England
Hampshire
Status: 16/20 at 2008-05-24
http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?FreerunnerBulkBuy
Willing to re-ship within the UK.
(Sorry, we set up the page before we knew about this one)
London
Status : 16/10
- Juergen Schinker
mailto:ba1020@homie.homelinux.net
- aled
Contact
- Robert Piasek (actually in Southampton)
Contact
- Tom Scholl (Cambridge, travel to London now and then anyway so could pick up)
[29]
- Weiss (Cambridge, could collect from London)
Contact
- Neil Bentley (in Wiltshire) Contact
- rhn x 2
Contact
- Tim Coggins
Contact
- Michele Mattioni (I'm based in Cambridge too, but if Tom can go to London I can grab the phone in Cambridge)
[30]
- Johan Badenhorst (London - Can't believe it's almost here!)
[31]
- Group Buyer Ben F-W (Fulham, London) Contact
- T. Chan (Cambridge, vaguely knows Weiss) Contact
- Rob Paulson (Derby, but will be visiting London in July) Contact
- Mario
Contact
- David Pottage (actually in Reading)
Contact
West Midlands
Status : 3/10
Latvia
Riga
Riga
Status : 2/10
Singapore
Status : 2/10
Israel
Status : 3/10
Czech Republic
Brněnská větev: Koordinátorem objednávání je Martin Šenkeřík Kontakty na mě
Pražská větev: Koordinátorem objednávání je Jan Mareš Kontakty na mě
Aktuálně
- 16. 6. 2008 - Martin Šenkeřík vs. Pulster:
Tak jsem si vyměnil pár mailů s Chrisem Pulsterem (pulster.de), a nabízí nám cenu 299€ a zaslání zdarma. To znamená (a snad se nemýlím), že těch 299€ by byla koncová cena pro každého z nás, žádné poplatky kolem, jenom 299€. Debug board vyjde na 99€ = 2400Kč (zde se sice nabízí hrůzostrašné srovnání s 99$ = 1550Kč, ale je potřeba si uvědomit, že k 99$ se musí přičíst daň a clo a bůhví co ještě). Ano, asi vyjde ten debug board o něco dráž, proto jsem zájemcům o DB zaslal email, aby mi řekli svůj pohled na věc.
Pulster může nabídnout sluchátka zdarma ke každému telefonu, o tom obalu zatím neví.
Teď otevírám na pár dnů diskusi o výběru dodavatele. Já jsem za Pulster, u kterého je zaručena cena a nebudu kolem toho mít žádné létání, zkrátka je to objednávka z EU. Pokud dojde k nějaké všeobecné shodě, ve čtvrtek zahájíme shromažďování peněz. I z toho důvodu, že někteří z vás odjíždí v přístích dnech pryč.
SMT is running. This means printed circuit boards are being produced daily.
Then, the circuit boards are being assembled into phones. This means the plastic
casing is being mounted As well as other bits and pieces.
Then the phones are tested. Then they are packed and shipped.
So figure, assembly is going to start in the week of june 16, pack and ship by june 23
Arrive and clear customs by july 1.
Hey 4th of july sale! Sorry american bias. But I'd figure early july.
The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production (
that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two
seconds) has been CLEARED TO START.
Základní informace
Jedná se o hromadnou objednávku Neo FreeRunner (hardware - GSM, GPS, WiFi, CPU 400MHz, ...; software - náhled na připravovanou Qtopii) do České republiky.
Cena 299€.
Postup registrace a objednání
Platí pro obě větve!
Zatím se provádí jenom krok 1, v okamžiku kdy budou známy konkrétnější informace o termínu zahájení prodeje, přejde se na body 2 a 3.
- Registraci provedete zápisem svého jména a kontaktu do patřičné větve odpovídající místu vašeho osobního převzítí telefonu. Můžete nabídnout distribuci do míst, které ještě nikdo neposkytuje.
- stanoví se lehce nadhodnocená částka (zatím to vypadá na 7800Kč za telefon, s debug boardem na 9800Kč), na bezpečné pokrytí očekávaných i neočekávaných výdajů spojených s objednávkou
- každý zájemce odešle tuto sumu na účet svého koordinátora, identifikuje se svým jménem a příjmením
- jakmile budou peníze nashromážděny, provede koordinátor objednávku tolika telefonů, kolik zájemců mu zašle peníze
- po obdržení balíku s telefony se vypočte finální částka za telefon, a případný přeplatek bude vrácen každému osobně při převzetí telefonu (lokální distributoři samozřejmě obdrží patřičný počet telefonů a peněz, aby mohly být předány dále)
- všem se dítko šťastně dopraví do rukou
- Stále přetrvává otazník nad objednávkou množství nedělitelného desíti.
Brno
Distribuční schéma
[n] n je počet kusů, bez n 1 kus
[nD] debug board $99 EUR (n počet kusů, bez n 1 kus)
Jednotlivé volby píšeme za jméno v [] a více voleb oddělujeme čárkou
Status : 22
Praha
Distribuční schéma
Vzhledem ke jednodušší distribuci půjde balíček do Brna a odtud jej převeze Tomáš Varga.
[n] n je počet kusů, bez n 1 kus
[nD] debug board $99 USD + DPH (n počet kusů, bez n 1 kus)
Jednotlivé volby píšeme za jméno v [] a více voleb oddělujeme čárkou
Status : 15
- Jan Mareš [2] - Contact
- Praha:
- Martin Dvořák - Contact
- Roman Dergam [2] - Contact(do poloviny června)
- Michal Pěnka - Contact
- Dag Rauer - Contact
- Miloslav Machotka - Contact
- David Kozub [D] - Contact (Kdyby z Prahy seslo, volim Zlin jako fallback.)
- Milan Vontorčík - Contact
- Vojtěch Vozáb - Contact
- Zdeněk Trávníček [D] - Contact (Klidne si zajedu i jinam po republice)
- Písek:
Slovak Republic
Spojeno s Czech Republic
Croatia
Status : 12/10
(maybe we should make one group for bosnia, croatia & serbia together?) the talk page
Russia
Moscow
Status : 11/20
- 1x sinister - Contact
- 1x ( - advanced) shallburn - Contact
- 1x ( - advanced) vadson - Contact
- 1x ( - advanced) Tallex - Contact
- 1x ( - advanced) mex3 - Contact
- 1x Alexxy (with debug board if possible) - Contact (Actual location - Saint-Petersburg)
- 1x pva (with debug board if possible) - Contact (Moscow if matters)
- 2x (1x - advanced + 1x Base) cbou (Moscow) - Contact
- 1x (Base) Buffet - Contact
- 1x homeboy - Contact
Saint-Petersburg
Status : 7/10
Belarus
Minsk
Status : 1/10
Taiwan
Taipei
Status : 3/10