Openmoko have announced a scheme to sell the forthcoming Neo Freerunner at a discount if bought in multiples of 10 (US$369, instead of 399), to be shipped in one package. Group buying will thus save money on the purchase, and on the shipping. This page is to to organise group purchases by region.
Steve from Openmoko announced "Every 10 pack, will come with a box of stuff. 10 pouches and 10 head sets."
So join us within a local group !
Australia
Western Australia
Perth
Status: 9/10
New South Wales
Sydney
status: 10/10 ( one group)
Please add an "I exist" to end of your name here.
We now have 10 people (that seem to exist). I would to suggest like openmoko the company allow group sale deposits into accounts on behalf of groups.
With perhaps the package sent to sydney and then to a po box or split to finish the journey to the buyers.
potential group 2 (0/10)
Victoria
Melbourne
Status: 6/10
- 4x Dennis Wollersheim, mailto: dewoller (at) gmail (dot) com
- 1x Nigel Cunningham, mailto: ncunningham (at) crca (dot) org (dot) au
(I'm actually in Cobden, in the south-west)
- 1x Dale Maggee, mailto: antisol (at) earthling (dot) net
ACT
Canberra
Status: 2/10
Queensland
Brisbane
Status: 6/10 (possibly 20)
South Australia
Adelaide
Status: 8/10
Austria
There is a group-buy page at MetaLab, available here: http://metalab.at/wiki/OpenMoko .. we almost have the full 10 slots assigned, and its quite possible that we will order *20* phones, so please register on the Metalab pages and let us know if you're interested ..
Salzburg
Status: 1/10
Wien
Status: 2/10
Styria
Graz
Status: 10/10
Belgium
Flanders
Brussel/Aalst/Aarschot/Gent/Brugge
Status 10/10
- Yorick, mailto: yorick DOT matthys AT gmail DOT com
- 2x Dolfje Contact me here
- XVens, mailto: xavier DOT vens AT gmail DOT com
- Arno85, mailto: aaron DOT helin AT gmail DOT com, Kortrijk
- 2x Rubenv, mailto: ruben D0T vandamme MAILAT belgacom D0T net, Kortrijk
- Js Op de Beeck Contact me here
- Jan Keymeulen, mailto: spam@keymeulen.com
ps: Dolfje can bring freerunners to Brugge if needed
- Yvo Brasseur, mailto: yvo_brasseur@archon.be Living in Aarschot, working in Brussels.
Antwerp
Status 7/10
Wallonia
Walloon Brabant
- Istvan, mailto: buki DOT istvan AT gmail DOT com
Bulgaria
Sofia
Sofia
Status : 3/10
Canada
British Columbia
Status : 9/10
- Justin (Vancouver): mailto: stryderjzw AT gmail
- Dave (Vancouver) Vancouver Linux users group (unconfirmed but about 7 so far): mailto: doc AT skynet REMOVE dot REMOVE ie
- Steven (Victoria) - If someone in the group will remail the package for me. mailto: skurylo --> gmail dot com
Alberta
Status : 3/10
Ontario/Quebec
GTA (Toronto)
Status : 9/10
- Gerald A Contact me here
- MattC, mailto: quirkz AT gmail
- Sergey K, openmoko AT deeptown dOt org
- Kristin Low, kristin dot low at gmail dot com (Kingston)
- Daniel Lister, dan.lister-->gmail
- Ronnie Wong: 3 units - r25wong AT ryerson dOT ca
- Paul V Contact me here
- Matt Manjos, matt (AT) manjos * com
Group 2 Status (Hamilton): 3/10
- Gabriel D - ace AT staticwave DOT ca
- Richard D - rtdegelder --> gmail.com
- Steve S - ssinger_pg AT sympatico dot ca
Chile
Santiago
Status : 4/10
- User:Mankeke Ricardo Manríquez C., mailto: ricardo.manriquez "remove this and add AT" gmail "dot" com
- User:XKnightmareX Gonzalo Pesenti., mailto: mare.knight1 "remove this and add AT" gmail "dot" com
- User:Freyes Felipe Reyes., mailto: felipereyes "remove this and add AT" gmail "dot" com
- User:Zeus Jonathan Gonzalez., mailto: zeus "remove this and add AT" gnu "dot" org
China
Status:8/10
Denmark
If we do not reach a total large enough, Denmark **is** a very small place - surely we could figure out a way of getting them to find their way 'round the country :)
Jutland
Aalborg
Status: 3/10
Should anyone need it, transportation from Aalborg to Thisted for phones can be arranged, if you don't want to pick it up in Aalborg yourself :) ~~leinir
Skjern
Status: 1/10
Sønderborg
Status: 1/10
Fyn
Status: 4/10
Sjælland
Copenhagen
Status: 29/10
Finland
Uusimaa
Helsinki I (Full)
Status : 10/10
Helsinki II, Turku & Vaasa (Full)
Status : 10/10
Check & comment on my userpage for discussing payment & mail options
Helsinki:
- User:Piksi
openmoko ÄT pi-xi PISTE net
- Risto H. Kurppa
risto AT kurppa DOT fi
- Aapo Rantalainen
aapo DOT rantalainen AT gmail DOT com
- Matti Laakso
matti DOT laakso AT kotiposti DOT net
- Ismo Haanaho
ismo DOT haanaho AT gmail DOT com
Turku:
- 2x Teemu Välimäki, teemu.valimaki@iki.fi
- Jaakko Lehtinen, jaakko dot lehtinen at gmail dot com
- Janne Junnila, janne dot junnila at gmail dot com
Vaasa:
- Mikko Niemikorpi, mikefulli ÄT gmail PISTE com
Lappi
Kemi
Status : 2/10
Discuss the order here
Kemi:
- Henri Valta
henri PISTE valta ÄT kemi PISTE fi
- Tommi Juvonen
tassi ÄT mediapumppu PISTE info
France
Bretagne
Brest
Status : 1/10
Rennes
Status : 2/10
- Cédric DUFOUIL (openmoko at tsleg point com)
- Yves MAHE (ymahe at zindep dot com)
Pays de la Loire
La Roche sur Yon
Status : 1/10
Nantes
Ile de france
Paris
Status : 11/10
You may also see :
http://bearstech.com/openmoko/register
Lorraine
Nancy
Status : 1/10
Rhône-Alpes
Lyon
Status : 2/10
Grenoble
Status : 3/10
Alpes de Haute Provence
Manosque
Status : 1/10
Provence Alpes Cote d'Azur
Sophia Antipolis
Status : 1/10
Germany
Sachsen-Anhalt
Stendal (evtl. Magdeburg)
Status 1/10
Hamburg
Hamburg
Status 9-10
Niedersachsen
Hannover
Status 1
Hessen
Frankfurt
Status 1-10
Sachsen
Chemnitz
Status 2/10
Dresden
Status 1/10
Thueringen
Weimar
Status 1/10
Ilmenau
Status 1/10
NRW
Bielefeld
Status 4/10
Aachen
Status 3/10
Düsseldorf
Baden-Württemberg
Karlsruhe
- Spacemarine 2 Freerunner. -- I'm managing the communication between the groupbuyers, so please contact me if you are interested and haven't received an email from me yet. We will meet at the Kalug Meeting http://www.karlsruhe.linux.de/ on 26. 5. 2008 to discuss things further.
- Dr.Nop
- JensB
- Tedo
- ZaPPaS 7 devices at least, maybe we start a new group in Leonberg
- Gromgull (in Kaiserslautern, but Karlsruhe is close enough, and I doubt that I'll find 10 people here.
- Ebi
- Fabian
- Agon in Stuttgart, but Karlsruhe is close enough
- Gollum in Mannheim, ditto :) Maybe local postal service is an option?
Bayern
München
Status 9/10
Berlin
Berlin
for berlin-talk: http://de.groups.yahoo.com/group/openmoko-berlin/
Status 12/20
Hungary
discussion here: http://hup.hu/node/54588
Budapest
Status 17/10
- Ferenc 'Lion' Veres Contact
- Laszlo 'rka' Szabo Contact
- tg Contact
- LiRul - lirul [KUKAC] hixsplit [PONT] hu
- Nyosigomboc - nyos [KUKAC] nyos [PONT] homelinux [PONT] net
- hunludvig - hunludvig [KUKAC] gmail [PONT] com
- Dániel 'asd' Vásárhelyi
- i offer to handle ordering and dispatching the unit if no one has applied for it already
- asch, asch [KUKAC] freemail [PONT] hu
- btamas, Contact
- ka87, andras [kukac] csevego [pont] net
- pcm, pcm [kukac] freemail [pont] hu
- gpiros, geza [PONT] piros [KUKAC] gmail [PONT] com
- appa, appa00 [kukac] gmail [pont] com Contact
- pierre286, Contact
- Hélei Zoltán, heleiz [kukac] gmail
- Fenwick, Contact
- Radics Áron, raron @ vipmail . hu
Kecskemét
Dániel Vásárhelyi handles transportation to Kecskemét, therefore it is not necessary to collect 10 all pieces here.
India
Delhi/NCR
Status 1/10
Italy
For more informations and to organize groups, visit the
BUT please keep adding your name and email to the list below
If we don't reach the 10 phones limit in each city, maybe we could place an order in the "most requested city", and from shipping to other buyers. We'll have anyway a good discount although the "double-shipping". (Read here for reference).
Toscana
Firenze (e dintorni)
Status 9/10
Lombardia
Milano e dintorni
Status 19/20
Organizzazione preliminare DEPRECATA lì 11 Maggio 2008.
Da ora in poi usiamo il Freerunner Italian Group Sales.
Ad ogni modo, continuate ad aggiugerVi nella lista qui sotto
Piemonte
Torino (and province)
Per coordinamento Freerunner Italian Group Sales (Torino)
Status 8/10
- Claudio Carnino
(jollyr0g3r AT gmail DOT com)
- Alessandro Degano
(a.degano AT gmail DOT com)
- Enrico Pigozzi
(videokill71 AT gmail DOT com)
- Max Ciavarella - Contacts here
- Giuseppe Barbieri (elect86 at gmail dot com)
- Riccardo Issoglio
(riccardo.issoglio AT polito DOT it)
- Flavio Pastore Contacts here
- Michele Renda ( mic DOT renda AT email DOT it )
Trentino-Alto Adige
Trento
Status 4/10
- Gianni Costanzi
(gianni.costanzi AT gmail DOT com)
- Vincenzo D'Andrea (vincenzo.dandrea AT gmail DOT com)
(also Verona is OK - and I can carry others' phone VR to TN or viceversa)
- 1x ( - advanced) Tarcisio Fedrizzi (tarcisio.fedrizzi AT gmail DOT com)
- Emanuele Olivetti (emanuele CHIOCCIOLA relativita PUNTO com)
Friuli Venezia Giulia
Trieste
Status: 1/10
Veneto
Status: 12/20
Verona
Vicenza
Venezia
Treviso
Emilia Romagna
Parma
Status : 3/10
- Marco Grassi marco.gra AT Gmail Dot com Also for me it's ok the decentralized shipping.
- Leonardo Rossi ssj3gokou AT libero Dot it Also for me it's ok the decentralized shipping.
Puglia
Lecce
Status : 2/10
Bari
Status : 2/10
Abruzzo
Pescara
Status: 1/10
Campania
Caserta (and province)
Status 1/10
Lazio
Roma
Status 9/10
Liguria
Genova
Status 8/10
- Luca Maranzano X 1 (liuk AT linux DOT it) liuk
- Francesco Frassinelli X 1 (frafra AT autistici DOT org) Frafra
- Lorenzo Fornara X 1 (fw1987 AT hotmail DOT it)
- Stefano Cutelle' X 1 (staff@ascservices.it) ascservices
- Luca Arrigo X 1 (morph84@gmail.com) morph
- Andrea De Gaetano X 1 (dega1999 AT gmail DOT com) Dega1999
- Salvo Schiavone X 1 (salvoschiavone AT gmail DOT com Salvador
- Daniele Delmonte X1 (ryogazero chiocciola yahoo punto it)
Sicilia
Palermo
Status 8/10
Messina
Status 5/10
Calabria
Catanzaro
Status 1/10
Sardegna
Cagliari
Status 1/10
Viaggio per tutta l'Isola, per cui, nel caso in cui arrivassimo a 10 utenti...
Macedonia
Skopje
Status
1/10
México
Ciudad de México
Status
1/10
(Discuss this group sale on the talk page)
Gelderland
Nijkerk
Nijmegen
Limburg
Griendtsveen
Noord-Brabant
Bergen op Zoom
Eindhoven
Noord Holland
Amsterdam
Beverwijk
Bussum
Overijssel
Deventer
Enschede
Hengelo
Zwolle
Zuid-Holland
Rijswijk
Utrecht
Utrecht
Status
22/30
New Zealand
As Telecom are using the 850MHz network for their GSM network, and Vodafone/northelia (possibly aka orcon) are using 900/1800MHz, please state which version you want. This may need more research, I'm not 100%; see [6] for more info
According to jeremy list, telecom will not be rolling out GSM for four years, so the point becomes moot - no-one is likely to get an 850 gsm phone now and wait that long
Based on info from steve (openmoko marketing) concerning weight and size, shipping via UPS will be about US$185 (NZ$23 each phone) to Auckland.
UPS are far from the cheapest, but (again according to steve), OM have a contract with them, so this is what we are stuck with
Someone on the community list suggested using [7], a shipping company that will re-post items overseas at decent rates. They claim US$66 for a 3kg package, or NZ$8 per phone. Of course, the cost of shipping the phone from OM to the shipping company has to be added in as well.
As of 2008-05-08, US$369 is worth NZ$477
import duty on mobile phones is 0%[8], and GST is 12.5% so the GST added to each phone will be NZ$63; 12.5% * {477 + 23), cos we pay GST on postage too...
So, the total cost of a Freerunner as part of a 10 pack, will be:
477 + 23 + 63
= NZ$563
+ any possible charges to get it posted elsewhere in New Zealand
Auckland
Status:10 phones requested, the required minimum (10 phones) is reached, but more buyers are still welcome to join.
- Rob Paulson User:Myfanwy [9] 900MHz
- i'm quite happy to organise the purchase, if no-one has any objections. to ease any worries about me running off with the money, we could use an escrow service such as [10], or paypal. or does anyone have any other ideas?
- Simon Wells User:Swel024 900MHz
- Jeremy List User:Jeremy-list mailto:quick.dudley@gmail.com (Wellington, not Auckland, will pay for courier) 900MHz
- David Murrell User:Viddy - [11] I'm in Hamilton, either courier, or I'll drive up :) 900MHz
- Jeremy Gray User:Bogdan237 [12] Auckland, 900MHz
- Glen Ogilvie User:Nelg [13] Auckland, 900MHz
- Xuân Baldauf User:xbaldauf [14] Auckland CBD, 900MHz+1800MHz GSM with an EU charger clip instead of an Australian one (if this is in need to be selected). This is conditional: the transaction must complete by 2008-06-30, else I cannot participate, because I'm leaving the country afterwards.
- Paul Roe User:Par08 contact me here Christchurch, 2 x 900MHz
- Dave Lane User:dangerpossum contact Christchurch, 1 x 900MHz + 1800MHz GSM
- Paul Hunkin User:paulhunkin Contact Hamilton (I'll pay for a courier), 1 x 900MHz.
Norway
Nordland
Bodø
Status 2/10
Sør-Trøndelag
Trondheim
Status 12/20
Send mail om du er interessert.
Østlandet
Oslo, Akershus, Buskerud, Vestfold
Status 20/20(30?)
Østfold
Status 1/10
Poland
Portugal
Aveiro
Aveiro
Status : 1/10
Lisboa
Lisboa
Status : 2/10
Sweden
If insufficient number of people, orders could be merged and remailed perhaps.
Domestic remailing with Posten as A-class mail of a letter (criteria: length+width+height max 900 mm) weighing max 1 kg, without insurance should cost 44 SEK. 50 SEK more for insurance.
If we end up with more than one 10-pack in Sweden, my guess is that it would probably pay to order everything in one shipment to one address in Sweden to save on the international shipping, and then remail domestically.
Götaland
Göteborg
Malmö
Status : 1/10
Svealand
Stockholm
Status : 6/10
Örebro
Status : 1/10
Västerås
Status : 1/10
- Jörgen Lidholm, could join the Falun/Borlänge or Stockholm group
[19]
Falun & Borlänge
Status : 4/10
Norrland
Umeå
Status : 2/10
Luleå
Status : 2/10
Switzerland
Gabriel Ambuehl would volunteer to order the initial 10pack.
Alexandre Ghisoli could organize the second 10pack.
Luca Capello could organize the third 10pack (mostly for French Switzerland).
Mathieu will probably organisze the 4th 10pack. (Lausanne)
All the 4 with payment in advance (a 10pack will cost approx 3'800 USD).
Probably we will organize shipping, if we cannot all move to Zürich/Genève to get our Neo.
Shipping
If we would ship Neos, here is the Swiss PostPac prices :
Description
|
Size [cm]
|
Price CHF TTC
|
Size 1
|
22.9 x 14.7 x 9.9
|
2.20
|
Size 2
|
31.5 x 22.5 x 12.5
|
2.40
|
Shipping Priority
|
up to 2Kg
|
8.-
|
Shipping Economy
|
up to 2Kg
|
6.-
|
Steve posted informations about boxes that will be out with Neo :
- 10 pack : 435mm x 371mm x 119mm, approx 3kg, UPS will charge 160USD (need to be verified)
- Individual pack : 178mm x 104mm x 84mm, 237 grams
So size 1 will fit ! Local delivery in Switzerland will cost 8.20 for Economy or 10.20 Priority.
Zurich
Status : 20/20
This list already contains 20 people, please consider joining the Genève list if places are still available -- LucaCapello
Geneve
Status : 9/10
Lausanne (EPFL)
Status : 9/10
Spain
Spain (Country Group Sale)
Status: 8/10
Madrid
Madrid
Status : 3/10
- Rafael Campos Contact
1x ( - advanced)
Zaragoza
Zaragoza
Status : 2/10
- Alejandro R. Mosteo
alejandro AT mosteo · com
- Arturo Giner
Contact
Barcelona
Barcelona
Status : 4/10
Valencia
Valencia
Status : 1/10
UAE
Status: 1/10
USA
Colorado
Boulder
Status: 2/10
- Vinc Duran (I can purchase and distribute locally)
Pfloyd Contact
Denver (Full)
Status: 10/10 (includes the gentleman from Utah)
California
Los Angeles
Status: 5/10
San Diego
(inc. San Diego county and surrounding areas)
Status: 1/10
Will combine with LA if too few.
San Francisco Bay Area
Status: 7/10
- Lothar Werzinger (900MHz) - Contact
Monterey
Status: 2/10
Idaho
Southwestern Idaho
Status 1/10
- 1 × Eugene Kravtsov Contact, Garden City (Boise).
Midwest
(combine Indiana / Iowa / Kentucky / Tennesee / Texas)
Status: 4/10
- Geoff Ruscoe Contact - Louisville, KY
- Steven M Contact - Cedar Rapids, IA
- Joseph Booker Contact - Chicago
- Matt McCormick Contact - Madison, WI
Indiana / Kentucky
Status: 5/10
- Dan Staley Contact (Kentucky)
- Donnie Jones Contact (Lexington, KY)
- John Sterling Contact (Lexington, KY)
- James MacLachlan Contact (Louisville, KY)
- John Askew Contact (Lexington, KY)
Ohio / Michigan
Status: 4/10
- David Pais (Unknown City) email
- Dave Ludlow (Toledo) (I can purchase and distribute) Contact
- Adam Steele (Cincinnati) Contact
- Elliot Bailey (Canton) Contact
- Richard Rowell (Grand Rapids) Contact
Washington
Seattle
Status: 1/10
Tennessee
Memphis
Status: 1/10
Texas
Austin (11/10)
Dallas (2/10)
Mid-Atlantic
Virginia
Virginia Tech (1/10)
- Lally Singh email -- yeah, if you're ordering anywhere in VA, lemme know.
Richmond (2/10)
New York
Status: 3/10 or 4/10
Maryland (2/10)
Massachusetts
Status: 8-9/10
- Ken Young, Cambridge (Note, if we're not up to 10/10 on the day the Freerunner is announced, I'm going to drop out and order individually).Contact
- Nick Dube - Pembroke, NH (Will also drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) Contact
- Justin Brzozoski - Worcester, MA area Contact
- John Nicholson - Amherst, MA (Will also drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) Contact
- Matthew Campbell - Worcester, MA Contact
Nevada
Reno/Sparks
Including Northwestern Nevada/ Northeastern California
Status: 1/10
UK
- Stroller (Milton Keynes, can travel)
mailto:stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk 01908 663 513.
Thinks that breaking the UK up into regions - at least outside London - is silly. There are unlikely to be 10 people in $your_town who want a Freerunner, so some posting of Freerunners will surely be required; see the talk page. This is the same cost anywhere in the UK.
Scotland
Edinburgh
Status : 3/10
England
Hampshire
Status: 12/20 at 2008-05-12
http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?FreerunnerBulkBuy
Willing to re-ship within the UK.
(Sorry, we set up the page before we knew about this one)
London
Status : 10/10
- Juergen Schinker
mailto:ba1020@homie.homelinux.net
- aled
Contact
- Robert Piasek (actually in Southampton)
Contact
- Tom Scholl (Cambridge, travel to London now and then anyway so could pick up)
[23]
- Weiss (Cambridge, could collect from London)
Contact
- Neil Bentley (in Wiltshire) Contact
- rhn (one or two sets)
Contact
- Tim Coggins
Contact
- Michele Mattioni (I'm based in Cambridge too, but if Tom can go to London I can grab the phone in Cambridge)
[24]
- Johan Badenhorst (London - Can't believe it's almost here!)
[25]
Oxford
Idea to re-ship within the UK, see talk
Status : 2/10
West Midlands
Status : 2/10
Latvia
Riga
Riga
Status : 1/10
Singapore
Status : 2/10
Israel
Status : 2/10
Czech Republic
Aktuálně
- Moje komunikace s pobočkou FIC v ČR:
Dobrý den,
Taiwanský FIC v nejbližších dnech začne s prodejem mobilního telefonu
Neo FreeRunner (www.openmoko.com). Chci se zeptat, jestli bude možné případné
reklamace a opravy řešit u vás?
Zatím není známý přesný způsob distribuce tohoto telefonu pro Evropu
a Českou republiku. Nebude vaše pobočka zapojena do distribuční sítě?
Děkuji za odpověď, Martin Šenkeřík
Odpověď:
Dobrý den,
FIC CZ s.r.o. v těchto měsících přechází pod Foxconn CZ.
V případě reklamace či informací se obracejte přímo na FIC TW.
Kontaktní osobou na Zákaznickém oddělení je
Mr. James Chang
Customer Service Department
Te.: +886 2 8751 8751 ext.6196
James_chang@fic.com.tw
S pozdravem
Jarka Ripplova
- Vyčkáváme jak se diagram vyvine do okamžiku zahájení prodeje. Potom se dohodne finální způsob objednání.
- Tak jsem distribuční schéma spojil s touto stránkou, ať v tom není binec.
Organizace
Koordinátorem objednávání je Martin Šenkeřík Kontakty na mě
Toto je jediný oficiální seznam zájemců. Přihlášení provedete editací této wiki stránky.
Moje finanční prostředky mi nedovolí zplatit víc jak 3 telefony ze svého (včetně telefonu pro mě). Proto bych poprosil i ty kteří tak ještě neučinili, aby zvážili poslání peněz předem (označit v seznamu), jako to učinili jejich kolegové ;-). Podle předběžných hrubých propočtů, mně vyšla cena za jeden kus cca 6700Kč. (USD za 15Kč, 19% DPH, poštovné bajvočko). Přesnou částku oznámím (a postup výpočtu této částky zveřejním), až začne prodej telefonu. Zatím tedy netřeba nic posílat.
Diskuse: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#Czech_Republic
Distribuční schéma
Zařazujte se pod nejvýše v seznamu položené město, kde můžete Openmoko převzít a nezapomeňte se přidat do statusu.
[*] platím předem
[D] debug board $99 USD + DPH
[?] nepotvrzeno (lidé z původního seznamu, souhlasíte-li s pozicí odmažte [?] a nebo se přesuňte)
Slovak Republic
Bratislava
Status : 1/10
Karel Volný >> vizte brněnská skupinka, můžu dělat spojku
Croatia
Status : 6/10
(maybe we should make one group for bosnia, croatia & serbia together?) the talk page
Russia
Moscow
Status : 5/10
- 1x sinister - Contact
- 1x ( - advanced) shallburn - Contact
- 1x ( - advanced) cracatau - Contact (actual location - Saint-Petersburg)
- 1x ( - advanced) vadson - Contact
- 1x ( - advanced) Tallex - Contact