http://openmoko.org/index.php?title=Talk:Qi&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:Qi - Revision history2024-03-29T07:27:23ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.19.24http://openmoko.org/index.php?title=Talk:Qi&diff=75948&oldid=prevTingo: /* Does "skip partition" work at all? */ speling error2009-09-18T16:16:43Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Does "skip partition" work at all?: </span> speling error</span></p>
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</table>Tingohttp://openmoko.org/index.php?title=Talk:Qi&diff=75947&oldid=prevTingo at 16:15, 18 September 20092009-09-18T16:15:49Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>With Qi all the different partitions in nand are not needed, could these be put together to allow one larger rootfs? There is config, kernel and splash which could be merged into the rootfs partition. It should also be possible to shrink the the partition of u-boot. If this is a suitable suggestion is someone able to write a short HOWTO how to accomplish that for GTA01 and GTA02?</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>With Qi all the different partitions in nand are not needed, could these be put together to allow one larger rootfs? There is config, kernel and splash which could be merged into the rootfs partition. It should also be possible to shrink the the partition of u-boot. If this is a suitable suggestion is someone able to write a short HOWTO how to accomplish that for GTA01 and GTA02?</div></td></tr>
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</table>Tingohttp://openmoko.org/index.php?title=Talk:Qi&diff=72450&oldid=prevKiwi: /* post-init booting stuff is faster? */2009-07-19T02:57:14Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">post-init booting stuff is faster?</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>How many times was this experiment done, by how many different people? For empirical stuff, more data is invariably better. [[User:Sm|Sm]] 22:04, 7 January 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>How many times was this experiment done, by how many different people? For empirical stuff, more data is invariably better. [[User:Sm|Sm]] 22:04, 7 January 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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</table>Kiwihttp://openmoko.org/index.php?title=Talk:Qi&diff=68284&oldid=prevMaelvon: /* will it boot jffs2 on flash ? */2009-03-31T14:02:01Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">will it boot jffs2 on flash ?</span></span></p>
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</table>Maelvonhttp://openmoko.org/index.php?title=Talk:Qi&diff=68283&oldid=prevMaelvon: /* will it boot jffs2 on flash ? */2009-03-31T14:01:30Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">will it boot jffs2 on flash ?</span></span></p>
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</table>Maelvonhttp://openmoko.org/index.php?title=Talk:Qi&diff=68282&oldid=prevMaelvon at 14:00, 31 March 20092009-03-31T14:00:58Z<p></p>
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</table>Maelvonhttp://openmoko.org/index.php?title=Talk:Qi&diff=68281&oldid=prevMaelvon: Boot Qi on Nand2009-03-31T14:00:20Z<p>Boot Qi on Nand</p>
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</table>Maelvonhttp://openmoko.org/index.php?title=Talk:Qi&diff=66626&oldid=prevEmdete: /* simplify nand partitions */2009-02-26T09:29:47Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">simplify nand partitions</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Qi <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">makes </del>all the partitions in nand <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">useless</del>, could these be put together to allow one larger rootfs? There is config, kernel and splash which could be merged into the rootfs partition. It should also be possible to shrink the the partition of u-boot. If this is a suitable suggestion is someone able to write a short HOWTO how to accomplish that for GTA01 and GTA02?</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">With </ins>Qi all the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">different </ins>partitions in nand <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">are not needed</ins>, could these be put together to allow one larger rootfs? There is config, kernel and splash which could be merged into the rootfs partition. It should also be possible to shrink the the partition of u-boot. If this is a suitable suggestion is someone able to write a short HOWTO how to accomplish that for GTA01 and GTA02?</div></td></tr>
</table>Emdetehttp://openmoko.org/index.php?title=Talk:Qi&diff=66625&oldid=prevEmdete: add question on nand partitions2009-02-26T09:26:08Z<p>add question on nand partitions</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>What I found difficult was "If a user presses the AUX button after successful partition mount and before start of the kernel pull (that is, while the red LED is on), this boot possibility is skipped (and GTA02 owners can feel vibration)".  </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>What I found difficult was "If a user presses the AUX button after successful partition mount and before start of the kernel pull (that is, while the red LED is on), this boot possibility is skipped (and GTA02 owners can feel vibration)".  </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Using Qi qi-s3c2442-master-hist_1665e43677c005a8.udfu (downloaded today Feb22) and with only one usable partition on the card, the red led flashed very quickly twice, and slower once. No amount of pressing AUX during the led flashes enabled the defective item on the partition to be bypassed. However pressing AUX as soon as I was physically able after pressing POW to start worked. It was in the time before any flashes, and I held it till after the 3 flashes. At that point I saw a familiar response, Great Relief. (Clare).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Using Qi qi-s3c2442-master-hist_1665e43677c005a8.udfu (downloaded today Feb22) and with only one usable partition on the card, the red led flashed very quickly twice, and slower once. No amount of pressing AUX during the led flashes enabled the defective item on the partition to be bypassed. However pressing AUX as soon as I was physically able after pressing POW to start worked. It was in the time before any flashes, and I held it till after the 3 flashes. At that point I saw a familiar response, Great Relief. (Clare).</div></td></tr>
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</table>Emdetehttp://openmoko.org/index.php?title=Talk:Qi&diff=66280&oldid=prevClaregj: /* Choosing a Kernel, difficult as described */ new section2009-02-22T02:10:39Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Choosing a Kernel, difficult as described: </span> new section</span></p>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">What I found difficult was "If a user presses the AUX button after successful partition mount and before start of the kernel pull (that is, while the red LED is on), this boot possibility is skipped (and GTA02 owners can feel vibration)". </ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Using Qi qi-s3c2442-master-hist_1665e43677c005a8.udfu (downloaded today Feb22) and with only one usable partition on the card, the red led flashed very quickly twice, and slower once. No amount of pressing AUX during the led flashes enabled the defective item on the partition to be bypassed. However pressing AUX as soon as I was physically able after pressing POW to start worked. It was in the time before any flashes, and I held it till after the 3 flashes. At that point I saw a familiar response, Great Relief. (Clare).</ins></div></td></tr>
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